User talk:Prh47bridge

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festipedia

I have removed all links in the template to festipedia.org.uk. Thát is NOT the way Wikipedia works. The goal should be to create the necessary articles here, or to leave them as is, that template is in that way a violation of WP:NOT. Moreover, the links are to another wiki, links to which are strongly discouraged. I hope this explains. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 11:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

RM Nimbus

Hello PH, Thanks for your comments regarding inaccuracies in the RM Nimbus article. I think I've fixed them - please take a look. The Mill Street (and earlier) days are not my forté, so any corrections appreciated. Best wishes Guffydrawers (talk) 08:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Question Regarding Vote Totals For UK Council Elections

So, I have an interest in tallying up the votes for the Council Elections, but I want to be sure that I am counting the votes correctly. I recently did a "Raw Total" which is on a couple of the Talk pages for the 2026 UK Locals, but there has been some discussion on the Discord as to what the best method is. As an American used to working with American election articles, I want to make sure that anything I do is to the standard of the British editors, though I am not sure if there is a Wikiteam for the British elections as such. One person I reached out to pointed me to this PDF (https://data.london.gov.uk/download/borough-council-election-results-2022/a797f5c7-02a3-4a76-9629-b96b132a0b21/Local%20Elections%20Report.pdf), and the method they use is to use the number of Party candidates in a Ward as a divisor, as opposed to using the number of seats in the Ward. Would this be the best way to tabulate the results? Ariostos (talk) 20:56, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Hi Ariostos. I presume you are trying to calculate vote shares for the parties and/or turnout. If that is the case, I would use the number of candidates as a divisor. To explain why, imagine a ward that elects three councillors. There is an election. The Conservatives put up three candidates but Labour only put up two. No other party puts up any candidates. On election day, 1,600 votes are cast. Each voter will have three votes. There are 700 Conservative supporters who all cast their three votes for the Conservative candidates. The other 900 voters vote for the two Labour candidates and, as the don't like the Conservatives, don't use their third vote. The Labour candidates therefore have 900 votes each and the Conservatives have 700 votes each. The two Labour candidates are elected and, if there really was a three way tie, the Conservatives would draw lots to determine which one was elected. In total, 2,100 votes have been cast for Conservatives, 1,800 for Labour. If we divide that by the number of seats, we get 700 for the Conservatives and 600 for Labour. However, that means the Conservatives have a larger share of the vote than Labour despite the fact that Labour clearly won, which is counterintuitive. If we normalise by the number of candidates, we get 700 for the Conservatives and 900 for Labour, which looks like a much better representation of the outcome.

Having said all that, this is my personal view. There was a paper produced way back in 2010 by Christine Gunter, Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher looking at the best way to estimate turnout in multi-member wards. They looked at 9 possible algorithms including dividing the total votes by the number of number of seats, looking at the average vote per candidate for each party and looking at the candidate with the most votes for each party. They concluded that none of the approaches they looked at stood out as the best answer. You can read their paper at https://www.electionscentre.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/02664769822918Calculating-the-total-vote.pdf if you are interested. --Prh47bridge (talk) 10:17, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

So, the methodology put out by the Greater London Authority in the PDF uses the system that you described in your first paragraph, on Pgs 41-42, and this was pointed out to me by at least one other British member. That certainly seems doable based on the information that is readily available. My own personal view is that Algorithm F, where the top candidate in each Party/Affiliate is used in the tabulation, is best; however this is as an American that is used to working on American election articles, where there isn't always a standardized election system in place. The Presidential election in Alabama in 1960 is a good example of this in practice, but you also have the Pre-1970 House of Representatives elections.

Anyway, I needed some sort of confirmation from British members before I started, so I thank you for providing that; if you think I should reach out to additional British members beforehand though, and who those might be, I would be rather thankful. With the decline of the Wikiteams of old I've primarily been talking with the Discord, which doesn't seem to have any British members. --Ariostos (talk) 11:38, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

I've no idea who else you might reach out to. I think you should go for it! Prh47bridge (talk) 17:52, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

Started working here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fm4HGGdWkgJGABPih3XomitBXt8a1-sou-WPCEEfoVg/edit?gid=293079855#gid=293079855), with the focus being London for now. --Ariostos (talk) 19:57, 23 May 2026 (UTC)