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Question from Sheikh Sibgotuddin Jaka (04:03, 5 September 2025)
Hello, how to write articles in Wikipedia --Sheikh Sibgotuddin Jaka (talk) 04:03, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Sheikh Sibgotuddin Jaka! Welcome to Wikipedia! I would advise you to use the articles for creation process to create a draft article about the subject you wish to create an article about. This way, you'll have time to make improvements and expansions to the draft article's content, and have it reviewed and published when you're ready to take that step. I should also advise you to review Wikipedia's guideline pages on conflict of interest and no original research, as these commonly become relevant to the articles that new users try to create.
- Also, since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. Those tutorial pages will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will familiarize you with our policies and guidelines, how Wikipedia works, how to navigate around the site, and how to find important locations and pages. Most users who take this advice, read through those pages, and complete the new user tutorial usually tell me later that they were significantly helpful to them, and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise.
- If you have any questions or need additional assistance, please let me know and I'll be more than happy to help. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:17, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
Huggle
Enable global max score (edits with higher score will be ignored - useful if you want to see only good edits)
and Enable global min score (edits with lower score will be ignoref - useful if you want to see only bad edits)
. This setting, how can it be customized to see bad edits more often? Thank you in advance. - Arcrev1 (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Arcrev1, and thanks for the message! Answering your question and explaining how things work regarding a "score" on Huggle will be easier for you to understand if I explain the "scoring system" to you first. Wikipedia currently uses a machine learning service called ORES to determine the quality and likelihood of disruption for each and every edit that is made to the project (It's going to be switched to a different machine learning service, but it currently uses ORES as of right now). The specific score that Huggle looks at is the ORES score regarding the probability that the edit is vandalism or disruption made in bad faith.
- If I recall correctly, the score for each edit will range from -700 to +700 (but don't quote me on that; it could be +/- 1000). The lower the score is (such as being a very negative number), the higher the likelihood is that the edit is good and doesn't contain vandalism. Just the opposite is true: the higher the score is (in this case, a very positive number), the higher the likelihood is that the edit is disruptive and does contain vandalism.
- If you want to set Huggle to only add edits to your queue if they have a higher likelihood of being disruptive or containing vandalism, enable the option in Huggle to set a global minimum score. Leave the value at 0 for now until you get a feel for what edits are now showing up. If you're still seeing a bunch of good edits being added to your queue and want to increase the level of strictness, increase the value by +50 each time until you see the results that you're looking for. On the other hand, if you're noticing a sudden significant decline in the number of disruptive edits that are being added to your Huggle queue and if other pages and statistics are showing that a lot of vandalism is being added around the project and being reverted by other editors, do the opposite - lower the value by -50 each time until you find a value that gives you what you're looking for.
- Just remember: The higher the score, the higher the probability of being disruption. The lower the score, the lower the probability. It'll likely take a little bit of time before you find a threshold that you're happy with, but that's what you'll want to do if you want to drill down the number of edits being queued and focus only on likely bad edits. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Good luck! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:01, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Thanks for clarifying how to use those settings. Also, if possible, could you please explain how to remove non-mainspace pages from my queue, since the Huggle settings are so broad and confusing. And also, kindly remove my pending changes reviewer rights, thank you. - Arcrev1 (talk) 08:13, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Arcrev1 - Sure, no problem. The best way to do this is to click on the System menu, click on Options..., then click on the Queue filter tab. Create a new custom queue filter and give it a name (I just call mine "OSHWAH"). On the bottom-right of the queue filter options, you'll just tick the boxes next to the namespaces that you want to ignore (in your situation, you'll tick all of the boxes since the mainspace doesn't appear to be in the list of locations that you can ignore), and then save the new queue filter. Make sure that you set the Default for this site: option to use the custom filter that you just created. This way, Huggle will automatically use your custom queue filter (and use those custom filter options you set) by default every time you launch Huggle. That should set the Huggle queue to only display what you're looking for.
- @Oshwah: Thanks for clarifying how to use those settings. Also, if possible, could you please explain how to remove non-mainspace pages from my queue, since the Huggle settings are so broad and confusing. And also, kindly remove my pending changes reviewer rights, thank you. - Arcrev1 (talk) 08:13, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding your pending changes reviewer permissions:
Done. If you change your mind and want the permissions again later, just officially request them again here or let me know and I can just click the button for you. Please don't be a stranger if I can answer any more questions or help you further with anything Huggle-related. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:34, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Thank you for the kind answer. For clarifying, after you answered me I have not yet opened Huggle. Here is why I get confused. I am currently using the WIKI provider, and its queue is very fast, almost like the normal recent changes page on Wikipedia where edits appear every second on all pages. So I wonder if I should adjust the ORES, the one with scores, etc. I enabled the global minimum score and set it to different values like -50, 50, -5, 25, etc. And I noticed that every time I changed it, the percentage of edits showing in the queue dropped almost 75 percent, making the edits very few. Of course, I know that the score filters the edits which is why they become fewer, but is it normal that it becomes so few that you sometimes have to wait 30 seconds before the next edit appears in the queue? And when I look at them, the edits are not even disruptive. If you do not mind, do you also use these settings? Maybe you can share how you set yours so I can try it and see if it works better for me. Thank you. - Arcrev1 (talk) 10:56, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Arcrev1 - No problem; always happy to lend a hand! ;-) I do not set a minimum or maximum score threshold in my Huggle options, and I don't exclude any namespaces in my custom queue options. The only things that I exclude from being added to my Huggle queue are my own edits and edits that are reverts (these are set in your custom queue filter settings). I also enable the setting to make instant reverts instead of adding a delay of a few seconds (be careful with this - enabling this will disable you from being able to undo or cancel a mistaken keypress before the revert is made).
- @Oshwah: Thank you for the kind answer. For clarifying, after you answered me I have not yet opened Huggle. Here is why I get confused. I am currently using the WIKI provider, and its queue is very fast, almost like the normal recent changes page on Wikipedia where edits appear every second on all pages. So I wonder if I should adjust the ORES, the one with scores, etc. I enabled the global minimum score and set it to different values like -50, 50, -5, 25, etc. And I noticed that every time I changed it, the percentage of edits showing in the queue dropped almost 75 percent, making the edits very few. Of course, I know that the score filters the edits which is why they become fewer, but is it normal that it becomes so few that you sometimes have to wait 30 seconds before the next edit appears in the queue? And when I look at them, the edits are not even disruptive. If you do not mind, do you also use these settings? Maybe you can share how you set yours so I can try it and see if it works better for me. Thank you. - Arcrev1 (talk) 10:56, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding your pending changes reviewer permissions:
- Huggle, by default, will use the XmlRcs feed for pulling recent changes, but there is a setting in the options (at the top under the "feeds" tab) that tells Huggle to use IRC for recent changes, if possible. I'm not sure why that setting is there, and I believe that it is enabled by default (I don't remember setting or changing this). In my experience with playing around with these options and which feed to use, I didn't find a significant delay or downside with using one vs another. The different feeds are available for you to choose in case one becomes degraded or goes down, so that you can switch to a different one while that feed's issue or downtime is being resolved. The default, I believe, is that the IRC option is enabled in the settings (again, I'm not 100.0% sure on that and I don't know why it's set the way that it is), but I don't think that you can go completely wrong with choosing a different provider.
- After reading your latest response, I took a few moments and played around with the minimum and maximum score settings on my Huggle instance, and I noticed the exact same thing as you did: the number of edits that would be added to my Huggle queue dropped significantly when I set a "minimum score" threshold, but I haven't taken the time to compare the resulting changes and what appears in the Huggle queue to other tools in order to find out exactly why. I can definitely say that the percentage of edits in the Huggle queue that I revert vs skip without doing anything will range anywhere from maybe 5% (such as during the evening in the United States) to upwards of 15% (such as during peak usage times in the United States and when school is in session). That means that there's 85% - 95% of edits that I don't revert, which could mean that the significant decline is simply because the filtering out of likely non-disruptive edits is working. However, when I changed the settings and used the "maximum score" threshold option, I expected to see around the same number of edits being added to the queue (minus some disruptive ones), but I also saw the exact same thing: a significant decline in edits being added to the queue for review. I did make a few adjustments to the values, but I also saw that edits that were scored outside of the threshold were being added to the queue. I know that ORES assigns multiple scores and in different areas and aspects, but I'm not 100% sure if Huggle only uses the ORES score for likelihood of being problematic, or if it takes the likelihood of being good faith or any other scores into account when determining a "value". I'm looking through the ORES and Huggle documentation, so it might be a little while before I have any kind of answer that's more in-depth than that. :-)
- Let me know if you have any more questions or would like more information about something about Huggle or ORES, etc. I hope that my lengthy response managed to help answer your questions, but if I didn't - let me know and I'll clarify anything that I might've confused you with. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:53, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Arcrev1 - Okay, I have an update for you: I managed to spend a bit more time messing with the "minimum and maximum score" settings on Huggle, and after dialing things down a bit, I think I know what's going on. Setting the value starting at "0" and then moving it by only +/-50 points from that mid-point is going to result in a lot of edits not being added to the queue. That +/- 1000 ORES score range is very wide when applied to edits on Wikipedia. If you took two edits where the exact same vandalism was added to the same article, but where one of them has just a little bit more shenanigans added than the other, you'd see quite a difference with the ORES score when comparing the two. We were starting from the very middle (between -1000 and +1000); I should've recommended that you start from the end of the minimum score threshold (like setting the value to -250 to start) and then had you increase the value by +50 to nudge that setting and define the parameters to the exact "dial-in" threshold that you wanted. That was my fault... and I apologize; I should've taken more time to understand what was going on first before having you go on this "wild goose-chase" alongside with me and causing you more confusion instead of helping you.
- Let me know if you have any more questions or would like more information about something about Huggle or ORES, etc. I hope that my lengthy response managed to help answer your questions, but if I didn't - let me know and I'll clarify anything that I might've confused you with. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:53, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- I figured this out after I realized that I kinda should of known this from the get-go. :-) Huggle has this really cool menu option for the queue that will clear it of any edits with ORES scores lower than -200 (meaning that it clears edits that are likely good and don't have obvious problems). You can use the keyboard shortcut Control + Alt + D to tell Huggle to remove those edits from the current queue at any time. I went and enabled the "minimum score" setting so that only problematic edits will be queued, and I set the value to "-200", which is the same threshold that the menu option uses when clearing out the current queue list. This ended up coinciding perfectly like I thought it would! After enabling the minimum score option and setting the threshold to "-200", that keyboard shortcut no longer has any effect on the current queue since they don't even get added to the queue to begin with! Cool, so I was able to confirm that these options do, in fact, work exactly like they should. I just had to not be a bonehead and set a value that I actually use to compare to something else... ;-)
- Anyways, try testing that setting again in Huggle. Enable the "minimum score" setting in the options and set the value to be "-200" instead of "0". If you still see a lot of good edits clogging up your queue, move that value up by +50 and set it to "-150". Keep going until you get your Huggle queue to show the level of edits that you're looking for. The same would would obviously apply if you set the "maximum score" setting (for only adding good edits to the queue), but in the opposite direction when it comes to setting a value. You would start by setting it to "200", then slowly lower it by -50 each time in order to filter out the problematic edits and only have good edits added to the queue.
- Give this a try and let me know if this resolves the issue that you saw with most of the edits not being queued (it definitely resolved mine), and from there, we can talk about anything else that you'd like to do in order to get your Huggle queue to be filtered to the way that you want it to be. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:52, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, I just opened Huggle and your help about filtering the queue namespaces is very helpful. But regarding the ORES global minimum, I set it to -250. To be fair, there were a lot of edits showing up in the queue, and most of them were disruptive. I tried to increase it by adding +50 so it became -200, to see the real difference. I noticed that there were fewer disruptive edits in the queue, and also fewer normal edits appearing in the queue. On the opposite side, when I subtracted -50, so the global minimum value became -300, there were a bit more edits in the queue, and the same with disruptive edits. Maybe with a lower value, more disruptive edits appear. Is that right? I'm not really sure. - Arcrev1 (talk) 03:55, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Arcrev1! I apologize for the delay responding to you here. If you're enabling the option to set a global minimum score, then you'll want to start with a value of -250. Any edit that receives an ORES score lower than -250 won't appear in your Huggle queue. Remember: the likelihood that an edit isn't problematic increases as an ORES score goes further and further into a negative value. Hence, when you set a global minimum score value of -250, you're telling Huggle not to add edits with a higher probability of being legitimate and good to the queue for you to manually look through and review. As you increase the minimum score value and move it closer to 0, you're increasing the threshold of what edits are no longer going to show up in your queue. That could mean that very likely good edits and somewhat-likely good edits are going to skip the queue. If you were to change the threshold from -250 to -150 (for example), you're likely going to see a decrease in the total number of edits that will be added to the queue, since you're now telling Huggle to ignore edits with an ORES score up to -150, and add edits that scored above this value to your queue.
- Hello, I just opened Huggle and your help about filtering the queue namespaces is very helpful. But regarding the ORES global minimum, I set it to -250. To be fair, there were a lot of edits showing up in the queue, and most of them were disruptive. I tried to increase it by adding +50 so it became -200, to see the real difference. I noticed that there were fewer disruptive edits in the queue, and also fewer normal edits appearing in the queue. On the opposite side, when I subtracted -50, so the global minimum value became -300, there were a bit more edits in the queue, and the same with disruptive edits. Maybe with a lower value, more disruptive edits appear. Is that right? I'm not really sure. - Arcrev1 (talk) 03:55, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Give this a try and let me know if this resolves the issue that you saw with most of the edits not being queued (it definitely resolved mine), and from there, we can talk about anything else that you'd like to do in order to get your Huggle queue to be filtered to the way that you want it to be. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:52, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- The fact that you noticed fewer disruptive edits being added to your Huggle queue is either because they weren't obvious or blatant vandalism and happened to be scored lower than -200, or it was just a coincidence and less disruptive edits were being made during the time that you changed and tested the new value. You might try testing the changes during off-peak hours when disruption in total isn't as high (during the evening in the US, or when schools in the US aren't in session) and see what happens. Playing with the minimum value score option until you find one that you prefer is going to entail finding a balance between seeing some good edits showing up in your queue and not seeing some problematic edits showing up in your queue. There's always going to be edits that are problematic but that aren't scored a highly positive value, and vice versa; there's always good faith edits that happen to have issues that'll be made, and bad faith edits that are sneaky, subtle, or aren't absolutely blatant that are made as well. These are the edits that you're trying to find a balance between as you adjust the minimum score value. I hope my response makes sense to you and that I was able to help clear up any confusion. Let me know if you have any more questions, or if you discover anything else that doesn't seem to align with your expectations when you test different values, and I'll be happy to help you further. Again, I apologize for the delay with responding to you and I wish you happy editing! :-D Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:05, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Uni
I made this edit ojn the article of [[Uni]] and his moon Tinia because the Wikidata article of Tinia has no article in English. I hope you understand it! 2804:14C:B52B:80D7:B848:3417:9301:575D (talk) 17:40, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edit to the 55637 Uni article. I appreciate you for taking the time to explain what your edit was about. So long as it's constructive and for a legitimate reason, I'm completely fine with it and you're welcome to carry on with the changes that you wish to make. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:28, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Ruby Bhushan (20:53, 6 September 2025)
Hello, I am an Indian Hindi book author and I would like to create a wikipedia profile for myself. I have written several books (one of which is mentioned here: https://www.hindibook.com/index.php?p=sr&format=fullpage&Field=bookcode&String=9788119299805.
A little more about me: https://thebuzzfeedkahaniya.in/category/dr-ruby-bhushan/)
Can you please help me. --Ruby Bhushan (talk) 20:53, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Ruby Bhushan! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'll be more than happy to assist you and explain some important policies and guidelines that you need to know about. In short, I advise and highly recommend that you review and understand Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines (including Wikipedia's page on writing autobiographies), as well as Wikipedia's neutral point of view and no original research policy pages before you continue doing anything.
- In short, writing an autobiography or contributing to articles about subjects that you have a personal conflict of interest with with are highly discouraged activities on Wikipedia, and I don't recommend that you spend any of your time time doing these things at all. This is in part due to the fact that writing anything about yourself and in a manner that reflects a neutral point of view is nearly impossible, and "citing yourself" as the source with any content you write isn't allowed on Wikipedia. Users and patrollers will see the page you create and will quickly notice the issues regarding Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. To put this situation into a perspective for you: of the 100 articles I've seen users create about themselves (autobiographies), I'll easily say that all of them usually end up being deleted. I just don't want you to be left feeling disheartened nor let you spend hours of time for all of it to go completely wasted when the article is eventually deleted. Instead, I recommend that you focus your time and effort toward improving existing articles in topics or subject areas that interest you.
- To answer your question: If you become interested in creating a new article about a subject that doesn't involve yourself or a subject that you have a personal conflict of interested with, I recommend that you use the articles for creation process and follow the instructions and directions provided there in order to create a draft page. Using a draft page will be helpful and useful to you, because they allow you all of the time that you'll need to construct the article, write content and add references, and make changes and improvements as you continue researching the subject. When you're ready publish your draft, you'll be able to submit it for review, and (assuming no issues are found) a reviewer will publish it for you by moving it to the article mainspace. I also advise you to review Wikipedia's policy pages on notability and verifiability, as they will be relevant to any articles that you try to create.
- Also, since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- If you have any questions or need additional assistance, please let me know and I'll be more than happy to help. ;-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:32, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
[No subject]
Hi I am nuruddeen Nuruddeen Aliyu Lame (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Nuruddeen Aliyu Lame! Welcome to Wikipedia! Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can answer any questions or help you understand anything that's confusing. If you haven't visited Wikipedia's getting started page or completed the interactive new user tutorial, you should definitely do both of these things. These pages will offer you a ton of helpful guides, walkthroughs, lessons, and tutorials. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:22, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
2025 NFL Season
Hi Oshwah Did You See The Game Between The Dallas Cowboys And The Philadelphia Eagles The 2025 NFL Season is off to a hot Start Are You Looking Foward To The this season being the 2025 NFL season And Are You Looking Foward To Super Bowl LX On NBC On February 8 2026 98.186.55.18 (talk) 23:25, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there, and yes I did! That whole "spitting" incident between Jalen Carter and Dak Prescott was... certainly interesting! It was only 0:06 into the opening game of the season, and we had an injury and an ejection - football is definitely back, baby! When I first saw everything when watching it live on TV, I thought to myself, "Jalen! You are an idiot! Why? Why would you do that?!!". However, after watching multiple replays later, I definitely think that Dak Prescott started it all. He walked to the edge of the huddle, spat in Jalen's direction (pretty much toward him), then smirked at him. All in all, they're both going to get hefty fines by the NFL. The officials just didn't catch Dak doing what he did. My prediction for this season? I'll call it now: Philadelphia vs Kansas City at Superbowl LX. You heard it here... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:39, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- I also wonder what is the over under on how many times we see taylor swift @Oshwah Jp33442 (talk) 23:56, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Oh, dear God almighty... it's definitely going to be a lot more often during Kansas City games, because God forbid she gets engaged. On another note, seeing Travis Kelce pissed off last night during the game when Kansas City was dropping plays and losing did make me smirk a bit. I can't lie... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oshwah that would be great if it happened for the rest of the season. Jp33442 (talk) 00:20, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Not a Kansas City fan, I see? What team are you with? I'm curious to know! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:23, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oshwah when i used to live in south Florida it was the dolphins, still root for them because since i am back in jersey i refuse too root for the giants and the jets. Jp33442 (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Hey I respect the Dolphins! I don't blame you for choosing them over your choices between the Jets and the Giants... ;-) I'm on the west coast, so I'm with the Seattle Seahawks! Speaking of the New York Giants, we'll see how Russell Wilson does as their starting quarterback! He's been with a lot of different teams since playing for Seattle. Hopefully he'll find a place that he enjoys staying with... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:37, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Since your from the Seattle area i love your KEXP, great station, and i hope Russell has a good season Jp33442 (talk) 00:42, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - I actually don't live in the Seattle area, but I did live in the Portland, Oregon area for about 8 years not too long ago. But hey, it's either I make the Seattle Seahawks my team, or... gag... I made the San Francisco 49ers my team. I'm sure you understand that this is an easy choice. Now if you'll excuse me, I puked in my mouth a little while entering "San Francisco" into my keyboard, so I'll be right back. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:57, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- ) Jp33442 (talk) 09:05, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Hey, I'm not sure what your response here was trying to say or do. Did something get deleted or removed, or maybe formatted incorrectly here? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:23, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - I actually don't live in the Seattle area, but I did live in the Portland, Oregon area for about 8 years not too long ago. But hey, it's either I make the Seattle Seahawks my team, or... gag... I made the San Francisco 49ers my team. I'm sure you understand that this is an easy choice. Now if you'll excuse me, I puked in my mouth a little while entering "San Francisco" into my keyboard, so I'll be right back. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:57, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Since your from the Seattle area i love your KEXP, great station, and i hope Russell has a good season Jp33442 (talk) 00:42, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Hey I respect the Dolphins! I don't blame you for choosing them over your choices between the Jets and the Giants... ;-) I'm on the west coast, so I'm with the Seattle Seahawks! Speaking of the New York Giants, we'll see how Russell Wilson does as their starting quarterback! He's been with a lot of different teams since playing for Seattle. Hopefully he'll find a place that he enjoys staying with... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:37, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oshwah when i used to live in south Florida it was the dolphins, still root for them because since i am back in jersey i refuse too root for the giants and the jets. Jp33442 (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Not a Kansas City fan, I see? What team are you with? I'm curious to know! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:23, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oshwah that would be great if it happened for the rest of the season. Jp33442 (talk) 00:20, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Oh, dear God almighty... it's definitely going to be a lot more often during Kansas City games, because God forbid she gets engaged. On another note, seeing Travis Kelce pissed off last night during the game when Kansas City was dropping plays and losing did make me smirk a bit. I can't lie... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- I also wonder what is the over under on how many times we see taylor swift @Oshwah Jp33442 (talk) 23:56, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on SPI
@Oshwah: - Though I've been an admin for many years, I've only recently filed a few SPI cases. (I'm bound to make some mistakes.) I appreciate your work on SPI, including investigating and closing out Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rakibul Hasan Chowdhury. — ERcheck (talk) 05:40, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi ERcheck! No worries; that was an easy case. ;-) The process of creating a new SPI case is a bit unique compared to what you typically do when filing a discussion at other noticeboards and pages, so I completely understand. Even with the amount of experience I have with creating SPI cases, investigating evidence, taking action, and closing out cases - I still manage to make mistakes occasionally... sometimes big ones that require me to break some SPI cases completely apart in order to fix, so you have nothing to worry about. As you inevitably run into more sock puppets, you'll become more comfortable with creating SPI cases as time goes on. There are also some SPI user scripts available that help make things a bit easier and much less daunting too, so check them out and see if they'll help make life a little easier for you in the future. Of course, if you run into any questions regarding SPI, get stuck somewhere and need help, or if you just need me to take a look at something, please don't hesitate to reach out to me and let me know. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:52, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
You discovered a duck!
| The duck of unimaginable power | |
| This duck can do whatever it wants to. Polygnotus (talk) 13:37, 7 September 2025 (UTC) |
- Polygnotus - Ooooohhhh! A duckie! I like little duckies! They're so... cute! The only question that I have that nobody on Wikipedia has answered for me when I ask them is: ...what does a ...duck ...smell like? I see editors saying on SPI cases all the time that they "smell a duck". What duck? What smell? ...Where?!! I ask and I ask, and I never get a response from anybody! What does a duck smell like?!! Do you just pick one up... and sniff it? How, any why? ... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:44, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, ducks often smell like socks. Used socks. So yeah. Sorry, reality is harsh. Polygnotus (talk) 13:46, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Polygnotus - I mean, that makes sense. Keeping in mind that ducks spend most of their time on the water, I can't say that I'm surprised that they smell so bad. I'll give my dog a bath, and not but one week later, she'll start to stink like dog again! ...And she absolutely hates being in water and being wet! As soon as I take her collar off, she knows that's coming. I've spent upwards of 10-12 minutes just chasing her around the house so that I can pick her up and throw her in the bathtub. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:52, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps we can include that Wikipedia:RfA_cheatsheet#The_three_standard_questions here. Polygnotus (talk) 14:03, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Polygnotus - Heh, I'm not against that proposal at all! Here you go! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:14, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps we can include that Wikipedia:RfA_cheatsheet#The_three_standard_questions here. Polygnotus (talk) 14:03, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Polygnotus - I mean, that makes sense. Keeping in mind that ducks spend most of their time on the water, I can't say that I'm surprised that they smell so bad. I'll give my dog a bath, and not but one week later, she'll start to stink like dog again! ...And she absolutely hates being in water and being wet! As soon as I take her collar off, she knows that's coming. I've spent upwards of 10-12 minutes just chasing her around the house so that I can pick her up and throw her in the bathtub. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:52, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, ducks often smell like socks. Used socks. So yeah. Sorry, reality is harsh. Polygnotus (talk) 13:46, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Edit matter.
User talk:MTAMSK#September 2025
There was no removal of any content. Rather, I actually added text to a formerly empty section of the page. That being said, thanks for letting me know. I undid the reversion, though I should have probably sent this message before doing so, sorry about that. MTAMSK (talk) 16:44, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi MTAMSK, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edits to Woman on top. Ahh, I see what happened... I apologize for incorrectly reverting your edit and for leaving that note on your user talk page. I've gone ahead and removed it, and it looks like you restored the change back to the article. I appreciate you for letting me know about this. You have nothing to apologize for; I should be apologizing to you - not the other way around. ;-) Please let me know if I can answer any further questions or address any concerns, and I'll be more than happy to help you. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:51, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- I still thought I'd apologise for undoing the edit before sending the message rather than sending the message before undoing the edit, and also because I wanted to ensure that both of us were on good terms/being friendly about this. You didn't have to apologise either, at least this matter was cleared up without much trouble for either/both of us. (At this rate we'd probably be apologising about and forgiving each other for apologising 😂😅).
- Thank you and have a great day too! MTAMSK (talk) 17:03, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- MTAMSK - Oh yeah?!! Well I had my fingers crossed behind by back when I apologized, and I take back my apology on top of it! That means that I'm... -1 apologies to you! What do you think of that, huh?!! ;-)
- No worries, and I'm also glad that we were able to resolve things quickly and peacefully. You'd be surprised by the number of heated arguments that I've had to diffuse between two editors - simply because one of them made an innocent mistake that involved the other, and the other went into a complete and absolute rage and had a total meltdown over it. Please don't be a stranger if I can be of assistance with anything, and I'll be happy to help! Until we meet again, my new friend... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:14, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- I really do have a lot of respect for editors and administrators who can settle things calmly without starting a edit war then other people have too step in and ride herd on them Jp33442 (talk) 17:22, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - What can I say? We live in a crazy world... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:34, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Jp33442, and I do hope calm peaceful diplomatic friendly stuff like this is more common than hostile/volatile confrontations. (I wasn't sure what to title this topic, I was trying to make it have a non-intimidating/non-confrontational vibe/mood 😂)
- Also, @Oshwah, true about living in a crazy world, oof, seems like the heat from global matters (both geopolitical and environmental) are getting to us every now and then. (I also appreciate the jokes, I'm smiling and laughing from this both cause it's funny and it's in an unexpected context which makes it even more of a pleasant surprise in a way.)
- (Also, I like having conversations like this, I wish we contributors had these more frequently but then again, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site welp) MTAMSK (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Your welcome MTAMSK i recently stopped following a couple of groups on here with incidents because it kept going on and on, and just left it because people were just not dropping the stick and letting go. Jp33442 (talk) 17:45, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - I try my best to keep things low-end and informal. I've been told many times by editors that they're surprised by how personable I am as an administrator when they interact with me for the very first time. I guess how I interact with other users is the exception? Who knew...
- I really do have a lot of respect for editors and administrators who can settle things calmly without starting a edit war then other people have too step in and ride herd on them Jp33442 (talk) 17:22, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- No worries, and I'm also glad that we were able to resolve things quickly and peacefully. You'd be surprised by the number of heated arguments that I've had to diffuse between two editors - simply because one of them made an innocent mistake that involved the other, and the other went into a complete and absolute rage and had a total meltdown over it. Please don't be a stranger if I can be of assistance with anything, and I'll be happy to help! Until we meet again, my new friend... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:14, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- When it comes to titling a new discussion with another editor, I find that using the title "Look, you asshole..." really starts the discussion off in a collaborative and positive tone, and it shapes how the editor will interact, respond, and take what you have to say to heart. :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:01, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- OSHWAH could it be an editor with a secret identity last name:) Jp33442 (talk) 18:06, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jp33442 - Always remember that we don't know the true identity of the best sockpuppet user that's ever existed on Wikipedia. Do you know why? Because sockpuppet users who are good at what they do never get caught. I could be the most prolific, egregious, and notorious LTA that Wikipedia has ever known to exist, and nobody has caught me because I'm able to perfectly hide all evidence of doing so, or I'm a legitimate editor who follows Wikipedia's policies, cares deeply about the project, and have absolutely no log entries or behaviors that show that I engage in any kind of nefarious activity on the project because I actually don't do so. Is it because I'm perfect at hiding evidence? Or is it because I'm actually legitimate? You really can never know.... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:45, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- OSHWAH could it be an editor with a secret identity last name:) Jp33442 (talk) 18:06, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- When it comes to titling a new discussion with another editor, I find that using the title "Look, you asshole..." really starts the discussion off in a collaborative and positive tone, and it shapes how the editor will interact, respond, and take what you have to say to heart. :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:01, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Restoring deleted pages
Hello, Oshwah,
Just a reminder, when you restore a deleted page, you often have to take further action in addition to restoring the deleted page. If it is a draft or User page that was deleted because of CSD G13 reasons, you need to make an additional edit to the draft article after restoration or else it immediately becomes eligible for G13 deletion again. If the deleted page was deleted via Proposed deletion, you need to remember to remove the PROD tag or it could be deleted again. Same goes with an article or redirect deleted via AFD or RFD, remember to remove the deletion tags. These are all steps you have to take care of it you help out at WP:REFUND. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 20:44, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- This is a notification about Draft:Cyrus DeShield. Liz Read! Talk! 20:49, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Liz! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about this. I'll definitely keep that in mind moving forward. It sounds like I didn't make an edit to turn off the "G13 clock", and there was probably a template that I didn't remove that I needed to. It's been a long time since we've last spoken! How've you been? What's been going on in your life? Anything exciting on Wikipedia that you're participating in? Any top secret ArbCom missions to infiltrate and eradicate our enemies? What about Wikipedia conspiracies that you have evidence to prove that goes all the way to the top? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:54, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
USelect citation
I walk by the shops every day. That's why I know that they have closed. The company website isn't updated. How can I cite? Dedicator4573 (talk) 01:56, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Dedicator4573, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edit to U Select. I'll be happy to explain Wikipedia's policies and assist you.
- You cannot add content to articles and "cite yourself" simply because you have a close relationship or experience with the article subject. Adding content citing one's relationship, experience, association, or even one's own website, work, or research constitutes original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. This is because it's impossible for other editors and readers to verify that content is accurate and true. It's as if I were to say, "I'm the President of the United States". Would you believe me? No! You'd want some kind of verification, source, or proof to show that what I'm saying is true. If you asked me for that information and I responded, "I'm citing myself as the proof" - you wouldn't just disbelieve my statement, you'd probably laugh and think that I'm crazy.
- I mean this with all due respect, but your edit and the "source" you provided in your message here is almost the same thing as the example I just talked about. There's no way for us to verify that the content is correct, and this is why original research is not allowed. According to Wikipeida's verifiability and No original research policies, all content on Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable source, and specific information such as direct or spoken quotes, dates, data, information that's instantaneous, or other content likely to be challenged or removed - must be directly attributed to a reliable source via a citation. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:26, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Heads up regarding recent username block
See Mcschwiki25 who is presumably from Macquarie Cloud Services (talk · contribs) (CH = Claudia Haid I assume). I didn't see the previous account until after I dropped a uw-coi-username (I didn't UAA since I couldn't figure out what the 'H' stood for; glad I didn't now). Not sure how you feel about the ambiguity in the new username in that it's not at all obvious it's a "Foobar At Corp" style name. Perryprog (talk) 03:55, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Perryprog! Thanks for leaving me a message about this and for letting me know. Have you filed a case at Wikipedia's sockpuppet investigations page? Can you elaborate a bit further and explain, in-depth, exactly what makes you believe that these two accounts are likely being controlled by the same user? The more information and evidence that you can provide me will make it easier for me to investigate and take any necessary actions from there. Also, have you visited or seen Wikipedia's sockpuppet investigations page? This is where we typically direct users to go if they have concerns that sockpuppetry is being observed. This page provides you with instructions with how to file an SPI report, provide evidence to support your claims, and allow users involved with investigating SPI cases to do so. Once I hear back from you with the evidence and information that you have, I'll be able to help you with how to proceed from here. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:36, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, this wasn't meant to be an SPI thing, since it was a soft username block. I just wanted you to be aware of the new username that may have been from the same user, since it was still pretty ambiguous. Mfield has since blocked the newer account and 331dot ended up renaming the newer account, so if they switch to just using that one (if they are the same person) we're all good. Perryprog (talk) 14:23, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Perryprog - Ah, got'cha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Perfect; if you see any more issues, please feel free to report the username by visiting this page. You're of course also welcome to reach out to me and let me know as well. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:13, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, this wasn't meant to be an SPI thing, since it was a soft username block. I just wanted you to be aware of the new username that may have been from the same user, since it was still pretty ambiguous. Mfield has since blocked the newer account and 331dot ended up renaming the newer account, so if they switch to just using that one (if they are the same person) we're all good. Perryprog (talk) 14:23, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
WAIT WHAT ON
OSHWAH I JUST READ THE THING ON YOUR USERPAGE. (Pretend the rest of this is in caps for dramatic effect or something.) I take a wikibreak and that's what you've been up to?!?! Also man those photos are crazy. I'm glad you had the right priorities in asking for those (/mostly joking. I mean, I would've done the same.) So much love and many digital hugs. I'm so glad to hear that you're okay now. :) <3 Perryprog (talk) 04:06, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Perryprog! Thanks for the message and for all the love and encouragement! It's mostly in the past now, but I definitely can say that having a brain tumor about the size of 1.5 golfballs added a huge inconvenience to my life over this entire year. I had it discovered in January after I started having seizures in my sleep, bit off a big chunk of my tongue one night, and woke up to a mouthful and a pillow soaked with blood. Should this to happen to you, expect to have a migraine for two weeks straight following your surgery, and for it to be 20x more painful and powerful than anything you've ever felt before with a migraine in your entire life. It was easily the most painful thing (head-wise) that I had to get through.
- I'm just now expecting to receive a letter from the DMV clearing me to be able to resume driving motor vehicles within the next week, which will make it about six months since I had my driving privileges suspended. I'd say that I'm about 90% recovered from everything as of right now, and the remaining 10% will likely take some time before everything re-adjusts completely back to how things were before this whole ordeal came to light. All in all, I really can't complain... I'm alive, and I'll make a full recovery. It could've been much much worse... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:50, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely wild. I gotta ask... did you get to keep the tumor? (I'm sure the answer is no...) Do you now have it in a little sealed jar that has just enough salt mixed with water so it perfectly floats in the center, all super-evil-villain-vibey? (Sorry if this humor is too dark, by the way!) Perryprog (talk) 14:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Perryprog - It's funny because I did ask them, but the answer was a hard "no". They also had to send some of it to a lab in order to have it examined for brain cancer. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:14, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely wild. I gotta ask... did you get to keep the tumor? (I'm sure the answer is no...) Do you now have it in a little sealed jar that has just enough salt mixed with water so it perfectly floats in the center, all super-evil-villain-vibey? (Sorry if this humor is too dark, by the way!) Perryprog (talk) 14:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Black Dawn Patrol (16:32, 8 September 2025)
hey , i am new and might some help , also thank you for being a volunteer, BDP --Black Dawn Patrol (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Black Dawn Patrol! Welcome to Wikipedia! Sure, no problem - just let me know if you run into any questions, and I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:15, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Black Dawn Patrol on Help:Your first article (17:24, 9 September 2025)
hi, i am having problems with a piece i am writing , can you help and how can i let you read it ? i tried to publish but i got this message, An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, so it has been disallowed. If this edit is constructive, please report this error. Disruptive behavior may result in being blocked from editing. Report error
very new not sure what that means --Black Dawn Patrol (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Black Dawn Patrol! That message means that an edit filter flagged the edit you were attempting to make and determined that it might be "unconstructive". Were you trying to create a new draft page? Where were you trying to do this exactly? In many cases, you should be able to skip the warning and proceed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:18, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- thanks for the info , i will look into it and get back to you 88.81.131.251 (talk) 17:16, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
Pokemon Changes
Ok i was just seeing how this worked and wanted to add my own information. I didnt know it was a whole process. I created the words myself so i didnt need to cite anything right? Also how do you see the changes so fast? 2600:1700:3E41:4B60:A02B:BC5F:1AF1:E95B (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edits to List of Pokémon Trading Card Game sets. All content on Wikipedia must be verifiable to a reliable source or include an in-line citation to a reliable source. If you're adding information, you cannot "cite yourself" as a reference or source because of your personal experience or relationships with any article subject. This information isn't allowed on Wikipedia (See this policy page for more information). If you'd like to make any test edits, Wikipedia has a sandbox available that you can use to do that. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:34, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Could you semi protect the page? The vandalism occurred minutes after the page's protection was expired, and is happening again. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi 45dogs! I saw that the protection had expired just moments ago, and I was surprised to see how quickly the vandalism continued immediately afterwards. I wanted to leave it unprotected and partially block any IP users that were adding the vandalism so we could get some data and figure out who is doing this and why. However, I think we have enough data now -
Done. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:36, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for doing so. BTW, both of those IPs are proxies of some kind (one is a VPN server, the other a network sharing device, so maybe not a proxy) so shouldn't the VPN server at least be blocked for a lot longer? 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:40, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- 45dogs - I only partially blocked both of the IP users for one week and from editing that SPI page only (apart from being able to create any accounts). I wanted to see if any of the two IP users would start to disrupt other pages, which I thought might prove to be useful information if they did. I'll look into both IP addresses a bit more here in just a moment. You're likely right about them being either proxies or VPNs; once I partially blocked the first one from that SPI page, the second one started their shenanigans a just a few minutes later, suggesting that it's likely one person that's behind them and they switched to another IP address after finding out that the first one was blocked. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:47, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for doing so. BTW, both of those IPs are proxies of some kind (one is a VPN server, the other a network sharing device, so maybe not a proxy) so shouldn't the VPN server at least be blocked for a lot longer? 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:40, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Coddi W (03:10, 10 September 2025)
Hello! Happy to have you as a mentor. I am sincerely impressed by your length of experience as an editor (and contributor) here.
Comment: I noticed recently that one of my favorite artists (abstract painter) doesn't have a wiki page and decided to take steps to create a page for him.
Question: while I do not intend to crate many pages, I am happy to contribute in this knowledgebase as much as time permits. Is it a lengthy process to crate a page? Appreciate any thoughts you may have on this... thank you in advance.
Coddi W (talk) 03:10, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, Talk page stalker, The AfC backlog is pretty large and might take 4 to 8 weeks. Tankishguy :)(: (talk) 03:47, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Coddi W! Welcome to Wikipedia! Creating a new article (including the time to research, locate reliable sources, and write content) is a task that can take quite some time in order to complete. If you're still interested in the process or with getting started, take a look at the articles for creation page, as well as the my first article wizard. Both of these pages will assist you with how to create a new article, perform research, and write content. As Tankishguy pointed out above: if you use the articles for creation process to create a draft page, the process in having the page reviewed for publishing can take 4-8 weeks after you've submitted the page for review. Please let me know if you have any more questions after reading through the pages I linked you to, and I'll be more than happy to answer them. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:57, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks for your response as well as offering some guidance. I will come back to you with questions (if any) once I review the information. Cheers. Coddi W (talk) 04:10, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Coddi W - No problem; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:15, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks for your response as well as offering some guidance. I will come back to you with questions (if any) once I review the information. Cheers. Coddi W (talk) 04:10, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks
I remember you as a cool admin and you still are. :) I'm sorry about the medical issue, that I just learned about, but also glad that you appear to be recovering after surgery. I'm rarely active on WP and am temporarily out of my account that once was active. I can give one clue: Years back I once requested a REVDEL to you over IRC, but it was from another IP address. This may not mean much, however. See you around. 206.248.143.75 (talk) 05:40, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for the message and for the kind words. :-) No worries; I'm about 90% recovered now compared to back in May. The last 10% is nothing life-altering and will happen over time. HA! That hint does me pretty much no good; I can safely say that I've received at least 100 requests on IRC to rev del something over the years... Regardless, I hope that you decide to return to Wikipedia and edit using your account again (whenever what may be). If you're having issues with logging into it, you can always use the password reset function to have a new one generated and emailed to you. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:49, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from CosmosAce (13:27, 10 September 2025)
Hello Oshwah, Can you tell how do I add a new biography page to wiki? This person is pretty famous and is an author who has written many books. She asked me to add herself to wiki.
Thank you --CosmosAce (talk) 13:27, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi CosmosAce! Thanks for leaving me a message with your question. I'll be happy to point you toward the relevant policies and guidelines and assist you.
- I advise and highly recommend that you review and understand Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines, as well as Wikipedia's neutral point of view and no original research policy pages before you continue doing anything. I'm not sure if you have any kind of conflict of interest regarding this famous person you speak of, but you should review the relevant page that I linked you to if you do.
- In short, creating or contributing to articles about subjects that you have a personal conflict of interest with are highly discouraged activities on Wikipedia, and I don't recommend that you spend any of your time time doing these things at all. This is in part due to the fact that writing content on subjects that you have a conflict of interest with and in a manner that reflects a neutral point of view is nearly impossible, and "citing yourself" as the source with any content you write isn't allowed on Wikipedia. Users and patrollers will see the page you create and will quickly notice the issues regarding Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. To put this situation into a perspective for you: of the 100 articles I've seen users create about subjects that they have a conflict of interest with, I'll easily say that all of them usually end up being deleted. I just don't want you to be left feeling disheartened nor let you spend hours of time for all of it to go completely wasted when the article is eventually deleted. Instead, I recommend that you focus your time and effort toward improving existing articles in topics or subject areas that interest you.
- To answer your question: If you become interested in creating a new article about a subject that doesn't involve a subject that you have a personal conflict of interested with, I recommend that you use the articles for creation process and follow the instructions and directions that are provided for you there. It will help you with creating a draft article that you can use to construct and create the article for publishing. Creating an article draft will be helpful and useful to you, as they allow you all of the time that you'll need to write the article's content, add references to reliable sources, and make changes and improvements as you continue researching the subject. When you're ready publish your draft, you'll be able to submit it for review, and (assuming no issues are found) a reviewer will publish the article by moving it to the article mainspace for you. I also advise you to review Wikipedia's policy pages on notability and verifiability, as they will be relevant to any articles that you try to create.
- Also, since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- If you have any more questions or need additional assistance, please let me know and I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you further. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:44, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Thank you.
Genuinely, thank you so much for your help at ANI. I do feel that the other user and I have reached a point where we can (potentially) work together productively. But given that he mentioned my not being an admin, I knew I'd need some backup. Thank you for taking the time to write out two huge, specifically worded messages. Your timing could not have been better. I appreciate you! Jessicapierce (talk) 15:50, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jessicapierce - No problem; always happy to help! If you need someone to step in and provide you some backup in the future, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll be happy to step in and help wherever needed. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:53, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! And if you ever run across something that needs hours of tedious cleanup, just let me know... that seems to be my wheelhouse these days :) Jessicapierce (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jessicapierce - Tedious cleanup can be a real "labor of love". Keep up the great work, and please know that what you're doing makes a positive impact on this project. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:58, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! And if you ever run across something that needs hours of tedious cleanup, just let me know... that seems to be my wheelhouse these days :) Jessicapierce (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Huggle warnings
A couple of days ago (8 September), I came on a user talk page which you've made an edit using Huggle and discovered the warning made by you was directly above a ClueBotNG message without a section generated. This is not the only time I have noticed this as today I have discovered a couple of more occurrences which other people may not be aware of, as per Wikipedia_talk:Huggle/Feedback#Misplaced_warnings. I don't think Huggle would be working correctly if newer warnings are placed on top and without a section header. Not sure if this is related to the above section on Wikipedia_talk:Huggle/Feedback which you'd started. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:08, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Iggy the Swan! I've also noticed that this has been happening sometimes when warnings are being left using Huggle, and I'm quite certain that it isn't an issue that's isolated to just myself or certain Huggle users because of a setting that they applied. I've seen this issue when I visit the user talk pages of editors after others have left warnings using Huggle as well. Something must've changed somewhere that is occasionally causing Huggle to not see that previous warnings have been left, which is causing it to leave the incorrect level warning (such as a level 3 warning after a level 2 warning was left) and not do so underneath the section header for the current month.
- Thanks for pointing me to the discussion that you started on Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback; I'll respond and add to it sometime today, so that a solution can be found (which will probably involve a fix being made to the application's source code and an updated version be released). If I happen to run into what is likely causing this problem or find a solution, I'll let you know (and update the feedback discussion as well). As always, it's great to talk to you again, and I hope you keep in touch! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:37, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
ANI close
Thank you for a sensible close and helpful comments, both then and earlier. GiantSnowman 17:26, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- GiantSnowman - No problem; always happy to lend a hand. ;-) Take care - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
What a world...
When you have to protect Pastirma! Food fight! Have a great day, Oshwah! --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:00, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear! Damn, it's been a long time since we've talked! I hope you're doing well and that life is treating you nicely. HA, right?!! Sadly, I've had to protect random pages like this many times. Bad faith disruption knows no bounds... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:03, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- I'm doing amazingly well. I'm set to get a promotion and pay raise! My youngest son is getting married in April, which will be the last kid married off! How are things with you?? --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:09, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Congratulations! A promotion and a pay raise always feels awesome, and I'm very happy to hear of your son getting married! That must feel great! This year has unfortunately been a really wild one as far as my health and major life events go. You might've seen the very top of my user page at least once this year, but if you haven't - there's a link that will take you to a subpage where I talk about my health.
- I'm doing amazingly well. I'm set to get a promotion and pay raise! My youngest son is getting married in April, which will be the last kid married off! How are things with you?? --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:09, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- In short, after starting to suddenly experience seizures and loss of consciousness, doctors discovered a large brain tumor in my head at the beginning of this year, which was feared to be brain cancer. It basically put everything going on in my life to a complete halt. The frequent emergency room and hospital visits I had going on meant that I had to miss a lot of work, which led to the company terminating my employment - so my healthcare benefits and other insurance through my employer were immediately lost. My driving privileges were immediately suspended following the discovery, and I had to schedule regular appointments with a neurologist on top of everything. After months of waiting until I could even schedule my brain surgery, I was finally contacted, and scheduled the surgery at their earliest open availability. Months later after that, I underwent a six-hour operation to have the tumor removed.
- I'm doing fine now, and I'd say that I'm about 90% recovered from everything, but the entire health issue and the time I had to allocate towards taking care of it left me unemployed, I had to move out of the house that I was renting and move in with family and in a whole different city, and I'm just now in the process of having my neurologist sign off on paperwork so that the DMV will lift the suspension of my driver's license so that I can drive again (likely within the next two weeks). Basically, because of this brain tumor, my entire year up till about a month ago was spent entirely on managing it and getting healthy again.
- Anyways, I don't wanna be downer or anything to you! It's all good; I'm alive, will make a full physical recovery, and will eventually will return back to living a normal life like I used to. It'll just take one or two years before that happens... ;-) Oh, and be warned: that subpage where I talk about my health contains graphic images that you may find disturbing. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:35, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oh damn, Oshwah. I had no idea. I'm glad you made it through alright! I wish you the best of luck on your recovery. Take care man. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Indeed I did! I just posted my final update to the subpage, where I talk about waiting for my drivers license suspension to be lifted. Basically, my next goal from there is to find a job, and start saving up so I can move back into a place on my own. We'll see how long it takes until that happens... I hope you take care as well and that you stay in touch! I appreciate the message, and I'm glad to have been able to chat with you again! ;-) Until next time - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:15, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oh damn, Oshwah. I had no idea. I'm glad you made it through alright! I wish you the best of luck on your recovery. Take care man. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:50, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Idkbroskisoskis (01:54, 11 September 2025)
Hello, how do I create a wiki? --Idkbroskisoskis (talk) 01:54, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Idkbroskisoskis! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'll be more than happy to answer your question and point you in the right direction.
- To create a new article on Wikipedia, I typically point new users to the articles for creation process and advise them to follow the instructions and directions that are provided there. It will help you with creating a draft article that you can use to construct and create the article for publishing. Creating an article draft will be helpful and useful to you, as they allow you all of the time that you'll need to write the article's content, add references to reliable sources, and make changes and improvements as you continue researching the subject. When you're ready publish your draft, you'll be able to submit it for review, and (assuming no issues are found) a reviewer will publish the article by moving it to the article mainspace for you. I also advise you to review Wikipedia's policy pages on notability and verifiability, as they will be relevant to any articles that you try to create.
- Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if you run into any questions after reviewing the articles for creation page, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you further. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:05, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
dane diliegro
hi, I am reaching out regarding Dane DiLiegro I have reached out to admins in regard to @Italyino disruptively editing the page. I am also in fact, the subject of this page (I can prove this to you if necessary). I appreciate you protecting this page, but may I request that it be restored to its original and accurate form before @Italyinobegan changing it on 05:42, 9 September 2025 and caused disruptions. thank you so much. I am available to answer any questions you need. Dadilmotos (talk) 02:48, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Dadilmotos, and thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns. I've warned Italyino on their user talk page about edit warring, so this disruption you speak of should hopefully no longer be an issue. However, if any disruption continues on the article after the protection expires, the users involved with adding it face being blocked from editing in order for it to stop. Please let me know if I can answer any questions or address any additional concerns, and I'll be more than happy to help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:52, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- thank you! I appreciate you acting so quickly on this manner. my only request is to (while the page can still be protected) to restore the true and factual version of the page before @Italyino began disruptively editing it. The most up to date version of it is (because I am in an episode of only murders in the building tv show (which aired yesterday for the first time (during the edit war)) from 11:00, 10 September 2025 that is the most up to date and accurate version. as i said, I am dane diliegro and can provide proof of this if necessary. You can see, this page has been attacted by @Italyino back on June 30th, about my third passport.
- In summary, I am requesting the page to be restored to its 11:00, 10 September 2025 version while protected, to insure most up to date and accurate edit. thank you.
- ps. read about your seizures and im sorry to hear, but glad to hear you are doing ok! you are a soldier! thanks again Dadilmotos (talk) 03:04, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - Thanks for the kind words regarding my health. It's been a rough year for me, I'm not gonna lie... but I'm doing my best to get my life back to normal and how life was before the brain tumor was discovered... :-)
- I took the revision of the page that you linked me to and compared it to the revision that's currently published, and as you can see here, the only difference (other than the addition of the {{pp-dispute}} template to the top of the page - you can ignore that) is that there's part of a sentence in the "personal life" section of the article that's missing in the current revision. When applying full page protection to articles that are biographies of living people, my highest and main concern is that there's no unreferenced contentious content present on the published revision. Compared to the version that you're okay with, the current revision appears to be sufficient while any discussions take place on the article's talk page. The problem is that I'm limited to what things I can do after an article has been fully protected. Reverting the revision of the article to someone's preferred version can be seen by editors and members of the community as me "taking a side" or favoring the viewpoint of one or more editors over the viewpoint of others, and when I'm supposed to act as a neutral party. Have you started a discussion on the article's talk page and suggested that the revision you linked here be set as the article's current revision?
- Like I said, fear not! The article is protected from editing and cannot be edited by anyone except administrators. You can read more information about the application of full protection to an article as well as all policies and restrictions that are in place (including users like me) by clicking here. When the full protection expires, the article and the appropriate content will undoubtedly be resolved. Users who try to make disruptive edits (or continue them) will be blocked from editing. If you have any questions regarding the protection policy page I linked you to (here), or if you have other questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to discuss them and work with you further. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:43, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- I really appreciate you taking the time to read that. when it comes to "taking sides" by letting the article stay in its current state, you are taking the side of @Italyino, who came in and made deletions to the original page as it has been for a while now. they came in, made deletions, and the page was protected thereafter. what I am requesting is not to take my side, but revert the page back to its original state before the edit war started. that way, no ones side is taken. if that makes sense? Thank you again! Dadilmotos (talk) 04:06, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - I understand your viewpoint in that keeping the article to the revision currently published puts Italyino's edits at an "advantage", but I applied the page protection to the article and without looking or taking the revision currently published into account. I of course checked the current revision of the article afterwards to make sure that it didn't contain content that was a serious violation of policy (such as Wikipedia's biographies of living persons or copyright policies), but I left the current revision alone to keep myself as a neutral party.
- I really appreciate you taking the time to read that. when it comes to "taking sides" by letting the article stay in its current state, you are taking the side of @Italyino, who came in and made deletions to the original page as it has been for a while now. they came in, made deletions, and the page was protected thereafter. what I am requesting is not to take my side, but revert the page back to its original state before the edit war started. that way, no ones side is taken. if that makes sense? Thank you again! Dadilmotos (talk) 04:06, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Like I said, fear not! The article is protected from editing and cannot be edited by anyone except administrators. You can read more information about the application of full protection to an article as well as all policies and restrictions that are in place (including users like me) by clicking here. When the full protection expires, the article and the appropriate content will undoubtedly be resolved. Users who try to make disruptive edits (or continue them) will be blocked from editing. If you have any questions regarding the protection policy page I linked you to (here), or if you have other questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to discuss them and work with you further. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:43, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- If you have a few minutes of time, take a few moments and read through this page, which talks about an article's stable revision (there's also a humor/parody page that discusses the inevitable act of an administrator publishing "the wrong version" of a page that they fully protected). In short, the revision of the article that's currently published is not an endorsement of that revision, nor is it meant to mean that it is "superior" or "preferred" over other revisions. Editors can request a different version of the article be restored, and any administrator can carry out the request after a discussion between involved editors take place. Just because the current revision of the article reflects Italyino's edits doesn't mean that it is preferred or superior to other versions due to it being the current revision, if that makes sense. It looks like you've added a request to the article's talk page. Let's hang tight for now, be patient, and wait for other users to respond with their input, thoughts, or concerns - and we can take things from there. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:42, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- understood completely. I just want to remind you that I am the subject of this page, and while im aware that i now need to be using the talk page to request for updates, I can assure you that the original version of this page (before @Italyino) edited it last edited it is the most accurate and up to date. I know that because I am the person who is living what is on this page. suffice to say, this current version, which seems to be @Italyino having the last word and having the page locked the way they wanted it, is in fact not up to date. I will remain patient, I will hang tight, but as I said, it is really frustrating knowing that this page reflecting my own life for others to see has been tampered with by someone with a vendetta against me because of who I was in a relationship with. My ex has a rabid fanbase and will do anything to protect this person they idolize. thanks again Dadilmotos (talk) 05:41, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - I understand, and I'm doing my best to work with you and help you, as well as explain how things work and point you in the right direction with your questions and concerns. Like I mentioned above: Because a certain revision of a fully protected article is the current revision does not constitute an endorsement of that revision whatsoever. No matter what revision is currently published, remember that it will always 100% be the the wrong version every single time. Don't let it bother you that an edit by Italyino happened to make it through to the current revision. There's no doubt in my mind that it'll be undone and the content that was added before the disruption was made will be restored. The article had to be put into full protection due to the volume of edit warring that was going on, and to put a stop to all of that. In the end, everything will all get fixed... In fact, I'm considering possibly modifying the protection duration and shortening it to expire in a day or two, instead of in a week... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:59, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Oshwah This means a lot to me! thank you. then wait i shall! my only concern is that @Italyino or the like will return and do the same exact thing. but we shall see. thank you for your guidance and understanding. we need more folks like you out there. We shall catch up soon. Dadilmotos (talk) 06:21, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - No problem. Check back in a day or two, and please don't hesitate to message me here if I can answer any more questions or address any additional concerns. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:07, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Oshwah This means a lot to me! thank you. then wait i shall! my only concern is that @Italyino or the like will return and do the same exact thing. but we shall see. thank you for your guidance and understanding. we need more folks like you out there. We shall catch up soon. Dadilmotos (talk) 06:21, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - I understand, and I'm doing my best to work with you and help you, as well as explain how things work and point you in the right direction with your questions and concerns. Like I mentioned above: Because a certain revision of a fully protected article is the current revision does not constitute an endorsement of that revision whatsoever. No matter what revision is currently published, remember that it will always 100% be the the wrong version every single time. Don't let it bother you that an edit by Italyino happened to make it through to the current revision. There's no doubt in my mind that it'll be undone and the content that was added before the disruption was made will be restored. The article had to be put into full protection due to the volume of edit warring that was going on, and to put a stop to all of that. In the end, everything will all get fixed... In fact, I'm considering possibly modifying the protection duration and shortening it to expire in a day or two, instead of in a week... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:59, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- understood completely. I just want to remind you that I am the subject of this page, and while im aware that i now need to be using the talk page to request for updates, I can assure you that the original version of this page (before @Italyino) edited it last edited it is the most accurate and up to date. I know that because I am the person who is living what is on this page. suffice to say, this current version, which seems to be @Italyino having the last word and having the page locked the way they wanted it, is in fact not up to date. I will remain patient, I will hang tight, but as I said, it is really frustrating knowing that this page reflecting my own life for others to see has been tampered with by someone with a vendetta against me because of who I was in a relationship with. My ex has a rabid fanbase and will do anything to protect this person they idolize. thanks again Dadilmotos (talk) 05:41, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- If you have a few minutes of time, take a few moments and read through this page, which talks about an article's stable revision (there's also a humor/parody page that discusses the inevitable act of an administrator publishing "the wrong version" of a page that they fully protected). In short, the revision of the article that's currently published is not an endorsement of that revision, nor is it meant to mean that it is "superior" or "preferred" over other revisions. Editors can request a different version of the article be restored, and any administrator can carry out the request after a discussion between involved editors take place. Just because the current revision of the article reflects Italyino's edits doesn't mean that it is preferred or superior to other versions due to it being the current revision, if that makes sense. It looks like you've added a request to the article's talk page. Let's hang tight for now, be patient, and wait for other users to respond with their input, thoughts, or concerns - and we can take things from there. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:42, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Update 9
I just saw your latest health update! Good to see that things are looking positive. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 07:23, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi ClaudineChionh! Thanks for the message and for the kind words. Dealing with a brain tumor, the surgery, and the recovery afterwards is a long process. I'm happy to be at this point in the recovery as well, but getting my life back to how everything was before it all started is going to take more time. Once I get my driving privileges reinstated, I'll need to find a job and save money so I can move back into my own place again. We'll see how that whole process goes... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:27, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Glad to hear things are improving!!! You can repay us by getting your ass back in the trenches and fling the mop around! :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:54, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hammersoft - Thanks for the message and the words of encouragement! You have yourself a deal! I just recently hit 500,000 edits on my account, and I sure as hell plan to stick around and make it 1,000,000! I hope you're doing well and that life is treating you nicely as well. If I can help with any "trench work", please don't hesitate to reach out to me and let me know. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:58, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Everything's going fine, more or less, in my world. Nothing at all to complain about compared to your ordeal! There's one area I could use your eyes. The Killing of Iryna Zarutska article has seen edit wars of late. A two day full protection didn't stop it; it almost immediately re-erupted after that expired. I placed another full protection, this time for the duration of the RfC; see discussion. I don't need your assistance regarding the protection or its explanation, but I could use your assistance in one way. Some editors have expressed concern that edit requests were not answered in a timely manner during the 2 day protection. Having another set of admin eyes watch for edit requests on that talk page would be useful. I can't ask you to review and close the rfc about the name inclusion, as you did make one edit that included the name, leaving the potential that people would consider you involved. But if you could watch for non-perpetrator name related edit requests, that'd be helpful. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:11, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hammersoft - I'm happy to hear that you're doing well! Sure, no problem. I'll add it to my watchlist and keep my eyes peeled for any edit requests that are added. You're also welcome to let any users know that they're welcome to ping me and let me know that they've left an edit request to the article's talk page, and I'll happily take a look at them. Please don't be a stranger if I can be of assistance with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:14, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Everything's going fine, more or less, in my world. Nothing at all to complain about compared to your ordeal! There's one area I could use your eyes. The Killing of Iryna Zarutska article has seen edit wars of late. A two day full protection didn't stop it; it almost immediately re-erupted after that expired. I placed another full protection, this time for the duration of the RfC; see discussion. I don't need your assistance regarding the protection or its explanation, but I could use your assistance in one way. Some editors have expressed concern that edit requests were not answered in a timely manner during the 2 day protection. Having another set of admin eyes watch for edit requests on that talk page would be useful. I can't ask you to review and close the rfc about the name inclusion, as you did make one edit that included the name, leaving the potential that people would consider you involved. But if you could watch for non-perpetrator name related edit requests, that'd be helpful. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:11, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Deleted image on Radar speed gun page
Hello Oshwah.
I saw that you restored the content I deleted on the page Radar speed gun. This content I deleted was the first image on the article that had the description of a "Microdigicam Laser radar gun in use in Brazil". I left a comment after I deleted it stating that: "The first image in an article about radar speed guns was not a radar gun nor a "laser radar gun". It was an LTI UltraLyte LiDAR."
I apologize if this was considered inadequacy or improper, I am new to editing on Wikipedia. I figured this was an adequate explanation for the deletion but I will explain further now.
The description of the image was not fitting. This device in the image was an Laser Technology Inc. (LTI) UltraLyte 20-20 LiDAR fitted to logging equipment so that it photographs vehicles as it measures them. This device is not a radar gun nor does it contains any radar technology similar to the ones seen in radar guns. The device uses completely separate and distinct principles to calculate speed and thus should not be confused with radar guns. It is common to see them confused, but they are not the same and should not be treated as such. It'd be the same as using the image of an alligator on a crocodile article or confusing CT scans and MRI scans.
This confusion is only exacerbated when a LiDAR is the first image in an article about radar guns.
I hope this clears things up. JSSMes (talk) 23:15, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi JSSMes! Thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edit to the Radar speed gun article. I took a look at the edit summary that you left, and verified that you indeed did leave one explaining the reason for the removal of the image! You actually did everything just fine; it was me that somehow thought no edit summary was left, and I apologize for the confusion that my revert to the article might have caused you. You don't have anything to apologize for; I've gone ahead and restored the edit that you made to the article and removed the warning that I left on your user talk page. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to answer them or discuss them with you. Thanks for letting me know about this, and I wish you a great day and happy editing! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:21, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you!
- I will also photograph some of my radar guns to replace it with more accurate and modern examples. JSSMes (talk) 23:28, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- JSSMes - Cool deal! I'll definitely want to take a look at those pictures once you get them uploaded... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:11, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
About request protection
I'm sorry I just requested immediately archived on this request protection we don't removed it it goes to archived list protection request sorry about that. 204.107.19.43 (talk) 03:54, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! No worries, and thanks for letting me know. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:50, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
Question
Hello, how are you? Can the {{Annual readership}} be added to the talk pages of all articles, or is it only meant for specific pages? Thank you in advance. Abdufattohov Ibrohimjon (talk) 09:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Abdufattohov Ibrohimjon, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. I took a look at the template's code as well as its documentation, and I didn't find anything that would be a cause for concern, nor did I read anything in the documentation that indicated that it should only be used on the talk pages of certain articles. I say go for it! Add the template wherever you feel that it's needed or where its implementation would be beneficial. If you run into any issues with its use, or if you run into any more questions - please don't hesitate to reach out to me and let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:40, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your quick and detailed reply! Your advice was really helpful to me. So it looks like I can safely use the template wherever it’s needed. If I run into any issues or confusion while using it, I’ll definitely reach out to you. Thanks again for being willing to help!
- Best regards, Abdufattohov Ibrohimjon (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Abdufattohov Ibrohimjon - Sure, no problem; always happy to help! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:54, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Zuake (16:06, 12 September 2025)
hi, I'm new to Wikipedia and would like to know if you can add citations that qoute other Wikipedia articles? --Zuake (talk) 16:06, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Zuake! Welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, you cannot cite other Wikipedia articles. This is due to the fact that Wikipedia is not a source. Please let me know if you have any more questions or if I can help you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to lend you a hand. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:23, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Thank God for Life
Hi Oshwah,
I haven't seen you around here for a while. Until today, I saw you edit the protected page about Iryna's murder. Scrolling again to your user page, I saw and read this, which made me cry. All I want to say is: Thank God that you're alive, and that's the most important thing. Welcome fratello! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:59, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Safari Scribe! Thanks for the message! No need to worry; I'm recovering just fine, and the rest will happen over time. I'm indeed happy that the surgery was able to remove the entire tumor. I'll just have to have CT scans during regular checkups to make sure everything is good inside of my noggin, and to catch anything early. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:43, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from AnonymousAd on Rick Kaplan (19:27, 13 September 2025)
Hello, I am trying my hands at editing. Find it kind of overwhelming, any tips for newbies? --AnonymousAd (talk) 19:27, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi AnonymousAd! Thanks for the message, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'll be happy to provide you with some important locations that I think you'll learn a lot from when you go through them.
- Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if you run into any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Happy editing! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:44, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from AnonymousAd (20:03, 13 September 2025)
Hi 👋🏽😊. Second time editing. For some reason felt overwhelmed. Any tips for newbies? --AnonymousAd (talk) 20:03, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi AnonymousAd! See the response that I left for your message above, and let me know if you have any questions. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:48, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks
For reverting whatever the hell that was on my talk page. Your anti-vandalism work is always appreciated. (If you're wondering, I was that IP) Lynch44 23:27, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Lynch44 - No problem! It was your typical run-of-the-mill disruption. ;-) Awesome, you've obviously been doing this for quite some time! We appreciate your anti-vandalism efforts as well, and I hope you keep up the great work and stick around with us for awhile! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:41, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
dont delete my ganitank page
hi please dont delete my ganitank page withdraw your complaint i removed all promotion and now it's just a company a known company wiki page i created it without knowing the guidelines i followed the rules now and all the promotions reviews are gone now its justa known company wiki page please accept and make my page alive again Tanpat2805 (talk) 10:27, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Tanpat2805! Welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, the article you created was deleted because it still had issues in regards to concerns about advertising or promotion. Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if you run into any questions after reviewing the pages that I linked you to above, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:32, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
No economic interest
I am not paid by Vinson & Elkins to edit their wikipedia, but I do know the firm well. Therefore I am able to update their page, as I do with others. Please remove your comments. Thank you. Eloiseattheplaza (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Eloiseattheplaza! The messages that you see on your user talk page weren't left by me, and if you take a look at the date of each message entry, you'll see that they were left back in 2021 and 2022. Hence, no need to worry! You can either remove the messages or just ignore them. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:42, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Question!
I see you have welcomed Wheatbarleyale4, and I have a question about them. I very recently applied as a mentor, and I see 3 mentees in my dashboard. When I select filtered view of Recent Changes, I see 7 user creations, why is the number different between them? --pro-anti-air ping me for template replies 21:02, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Pro-anti-air! Thanks for leaving me a message with your question. I'm happy to hear that you decided to become a mentor and assist with helping new users with getting started on Wikipedia. :-) That's a good question... it might just be that your mentor dashboard hasn't updated and caught up in relation to the actual number of mentees that you have assigned to you after the accounts were created. You might try seeing if purging your dashboard page causes it to update and display a different number of mentees that are assigned to you. Let me know if purging your dashbaord results in any kind of change to the numbers that it shows, and I'll check some documentation and see if I can't figure out what might be causing this discrepancy in the meantime... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:15, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response, I usually use the UTC clock to purge pages instead of reloading, but I have tried both many times, I'm pretty sure it's not my filters (0-5000 until more mentees). There's 8 now but still only 3 on the dashboard. --pro-anti-air ping me for template replies 21:26, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pro-anti-air - No problem; always happy to help! :-) I have the same gadget enabled and I also use the time clock as a shortcut to purge a page that needs it. I don't have an answer for you at the moment, but think that you'll be more likely to find an answer if you start a new discussion on the WikiProject editor retention talk page. Someone who's involved with the editor retention project and the technical aspects of the dashboard and the filtered recent changes will likely be able to explain the discrepancy that you're seeing or resolve any issues. Let me know what they end up telling you, as I'm quite curious as to what is causing the confusion here. I currently have enough mentees to span 77 pages on the mentor dashboard, so I definitely don't have the ability to look at mine and see if I have the same discrepancy as you do... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:38, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Um, it suddenly works now. I'm guessing it was something with me just registering and the system not working updating yet. --pro-anti-air ping me for template replies 21:42, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pro-anti-air - Oh! Well... that's good news! I figured that it had something to do with the dashboard just needing to update itself. Cool, I'm glad that we figured it out. This way, if another mentor reaches out to me about the same issue, I'll be able to answer their question and have them just hang tight and check the dashboard later. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:47, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Um, it suddenly works now. I'm guessing it was something with me just registering and the system not working updating yet. --pro-anti-air ping me for template replies 21:42, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pro-anti-air - No problem; always happy to help! :-) I have the same gadget enabled and I also use the time clock as a shortcut to purge a page that needs it. I don't have an answer for you at the moment, but think that you'll be more likely to find an answer if you start a new discussion on the WikiProject editor retention talk page. Someone who's involved with the editor retention project and the technical aspects of the dashboard and the filtered recent changes will likely be able to explain the discrepancy that you're seeing or resolve any issues. Let me know what they end up telling you, as I'm quite curious as to what is causing the confusion here. I currently have enough mentees to span 77 pages on the mentor dashboard, so I definitely don't have the ability to look at mine and see if I have the same discrepancy as you do... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:38, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response, I usually use the UTC clock to purge pages instead of reloading, but I have tried both many times, I'm pretty sure it's not my filters (0-5000 until more mentees). There's 8 now but still only 3 on the dashboard. --pro-anti-air ping me for template replies 21:26, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
update.
hello! hope you are well!
just wanted to check back in regarding the page and its current status! thank you so much Dadilmotos (talk) 03:47, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi Dadilmotos! What page are you asking about exactly? Once I know, I'll be able to take a look for you...:-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:23, 21 September 2025 (UTC)- Sorry about that, Dadilmotos - I just realized that you're referring to the Dane DiLiegro article. Let me take a look at what's going on right now and I'll get back to you... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:16, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - I've started a discussion at ANI here regarding the ongoing issues occurring on the article. You're welcome to respond there and answer any questions or provide any information that you believe is important. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:43, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, Dadilmotos - I just realized that you're referring to the Dane DiLiegro article. Let me take a look at what's going on right now and I'll get back to you... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:16, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from PED8219 (14:09, 17 September 2025)
How do i start editing? --PED8219 (talk) 14:09, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- (talk-page stalker) There is a button that says edit,
- read up on
- H:GS shane (talk) 14:11, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi PED8219! Welcome to Wikipedia! To add to what EditorShane3456 said to you above, you can edit any page that isn't currently protected from doing so. At the top of the page where you'll see tabs, one of them will say "Edit". Click that tab, and you'll be able to edit the page.
- Also, since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, welcome aboard! We're happy to have you here! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:05, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
A request regarding Foreign Secretary (United Kingdom)
Is it feasible to log your full protection of Foreign Secretary (United Kingdom) as arbitration enforcement for the article titles and capitalization contentious topic, since the edit war was strictly about capitalization? Or would I have to submit an arbitration request for it to be logged as such? Thanks in advance! SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 14:11, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi SuperPianoMan9167! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. I fully protected the Foreign Secretary (United Kingdom) article due to an edit war and content dispute between editors that was going on there, not as an arbitration enforcement. I'm hoping that the editors involved have discussed the issue and won't continue edit warring after the page protection ends, but only time will tell. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them or discuss them with you. :-D Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:09, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Amicus curiae 1 (18:42, 18 September 2025)
Hello Oshwah, I am an enthusiastic final year law student enrolled at the University of London. I hail from Pakistan. I want to edit and positively contribute to law articles and eminent law personalities. --Amicus curiae 1 (talk) 18:42, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
Requesting backup
Hi there, I need to ask for your help. I removed several changes by a new editor yesterday; they have just reverted my edits, so the original issues stand (unsourced additions, removing sourced content, broken formatting, spelling, style, many other errors). There's also a copyright issue that I'm looking deeper into now, to make sure I'm right.
Based on the user's anger in their one Talk page reply to me, and their threats in edit summaries to report me, I need to step back.
I can give more details, but wanted to first ask if you even have time to look into this. If not, I totally understand and will post a general request elsewhere. I'm hesitant to do that, because I have not gone through any extensive communication with this user, given escalating warnings, etc... I guess I could just use some backup and another perspective. Thank you either way. Jessicapierce (talk) 15:04, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- Could you send the user right here? I'll speak to the moderators in the discord server about it. Tankishguy :)(: (talk) 00:48, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thans very much! The user in question is Postaldude22. In short, he is adding a ton of errors. I can let the copyright issues go (I was mistaken about one passage, and he has rephrased the other).
- I have only looked into three articles, and need to step back from this now, but someone should look over his previous contributions.
- Fiat–Revelli Modello 1935: The user added a lot of errors, I reverted, he undid my reversion, and SarekOfVulcan stepped in to again remove the error-filled edit.
- Armaguerra Mod. 39 rifle: The user added many errors and some text which appeared verbatim elsewhere. I reverted. He undid my reversion, but then rephrased the portion which appeared elsewhere. The errors remain.
- Fiat–Revelli Modello 1914: The user added a lot of errors, as well as a portion which I wrongly thought was plagiarized. I reverted, he undid my reversion and reacted with anger on his Talk page. I have apologized for my mistake. The errors remain.
- I can give more detail on the errors, but if you take a glance, you'll see them: unsourced claims, removing previous sourced content, spelling, erratic caps and bolding, punctuation, incorrect nowiki breaking things, citation problems, renaming the subject of the article without explanation, a paragraph in the lede which is about an entirely different gun...
- All in all, these additions are not improvements, but I probably shouldn't be the one to deal with it. I muddied the waters with my mistake about the copyright issue, and feel this would benefit from a new editor taking a look.
- Thank you, to anyone who looks into this - I appreciate it. Jessicapierce (talk) 02:25, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jessicapierce, Postaldude22, Tankishguy - I'll take a look at the user and the articles involved and I'll get back to you here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:11, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jessicapierce - I took a look at the three articles that you listed above, and I see that one of them (Fiat–Revelli Modello 1935) was reverted by SarekOfVulcan and hasn't been modified since. I also see that Postaldude22 reverted the other two articles back, but that you've since discussed some things with them on their user talk page here. Are there still issues with the other two pages, or have they since been resolved? Let me know. I don't want to jump in and step on any toes if the matters in concern have been worked out. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:59, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there, thanks so much for the reply. Yes, I would love it if you'd take a look at those other two (and perhaps his older contributions as well)... I need someone with fresh eyes to determine if those recent changes are worth cleaning up, or should be removed. I did have brief interaction with Postaldude22 on his Talk page, but he's made no effort to clean up his own text.
- Fiat–Revelli Modello 1914 still contains the myriad issues as above.
- He did reword some of Armaguerra Mod. 39 rifle, and this article isn't as bad, but many issues remain... compare the old and new first paragraph under Genesis and development. It now has a source, but makes less sense and includes a nonexistent word.
- I recognize that this is someone editing in a language that's not his first, but I genuinely believe he's asking for too much cleanup work from others (not to mention the issues of removing sourced content, and adding unsourced).
- Thank you for looking into this - I appreciate it! Jessicapierce (talk) 14:43, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jessicapierce - I took a look at the three articles that you listed above, and I see that one of them (Fiat–Revelli Modello 1935) was reverted by SarekOfVulcan and hasn't been modified since. I also see that Postaldude22 reverted the other two articles back, but that you've since discussed some things with them on their user talk page here. Are there still issues with the other two pages, or have they since been resolved? Let me know. I don't want to jump in and step on any toes if the matters in concern have been worked out. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:59, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Jessicapierce, Postaldude22, Tankishguy - I'll take a look at the user and the articles involved and I'll get back to you here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:11, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Johnnybluetv (19:29, 20 September 2025)
- Note: Johnnybluetv's mentor Grumpylawnchair is away.
Hello, please how do I create citations --Johnnybluetv (talk) 19:29, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Johnnybluetv! Welcome to Wikipedia! You can add citations to articles by following the information given on Wikipedia's guidelines for citing sources. This page should provide you with the help that you're looking for.
- Also, since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you or provide you with any more help, and I'll be happy to do so! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:13, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
requesting help
requesting help on the dane diliegro page yet again. i do t want to interact with @italyino as that could lead to warring. coming to you requesting support Dadilmotos (talk) 02:17, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Dadilmotos! See the response I left for you above and the ANI notification that I left for you on your user talk page. They both will point you to a discussion that I started involving the article and the ongoing issues that are occurring between the two of you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:46, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Wait a second. You told me to be patient and wait and that it would most likely get reverted to the way it was. Now they’re talking about blocking both of us. Why is this happening? @Italyino isn’t even responding to anyone. They are clearly the person that’s trying to cause issues. On top of everything I am the most informed on this entire article because it’s about me. what is happening here? Dadilmotos (talk) 15:18, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - I raised a discussion in order to draw attention to the article. The community is weighing in on what should be the next step. Nothing is final, so don't worry. The best thing you can do right now is respond to the discussion with any questions or concerns, and keep an eye out for responses that may include questions for you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:37, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help but now they are discussing blocking me it seems? and issues of COI are being discussed as well. my commitment is to with factual and objectively true. in fact. Now. More things got deleted from my page that are also true from the attention of this. somehow this dug and even bigger hole. there’s gotta be something that can be done besides bringing other people into this? i’ve been patient and I know you talked about all of the information getting reverted. how can we come to that resolution? Dadilmotos (talk) 16:28, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - Like I said in another discussion with you earlier, unreferenced content on a biography of a living person is usually removed – especially if the content is contentious – due to Wikipedia's strict policies governing these kinds of articles. Unless there's a reliable source that supports the content being added, it's likely not going to remain on the article. I understand that you're subject of the article in question, but "citing yourself" as a reference isn't allowed on Wikipedia. You may not think it right now, but these policies are important and exist for your benefit. Think if we were to allow unreferenced content to be published on the article that was libelous. That would obviously be really bad! If you haven't already, I recommend reviewing Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines and encourage you to avoid editing the article. I believe that I pointed you to this page in an earlier discussion. The best practice for all editors on Wikipedia is to completely avoid articles on topics or subjects that they have a personal conflict of interest with. This is why a block was proposed in the discussion that I started. If you have more questions, you're welcome to ask them here. I would, however, suggest that you ask them in the discussion that I started with the community. This way, other users have a chance to try and help you as well. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:36, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- just wanted to say that I appreciate all the hard work you do here to keep the peace and everything orderly. But I just want to send you something that you said to me over a week ago: “There's no doubt in my mind that it'll be undone and the content that was added before the disruption was made will be restored. The article had to be put into full protection due to the volume of edit warring that was going on, and to put a stop to all of that. In the end, everything will all get fixed... In fact, I'm considering possibly modifying the protection duration and shortening it to expire in a day or two, instead of in a week —- i was patient and kept open communication with you, not only did the page not get restored to the way it was before the disruption, but i was permanently blocked from editing the page… @Italyinohasn’t responded or talked to anyone here. i’ve had very open communication with you (that i’ve initiated a few times) and i feel like we could have done better. Dadilmotos (talk) 15:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi Dadilmotos, I'm another administrator here, and noticed this conversation, so I thought I'd give you another independent opinion on what has happened. Oshwah has been doing a lot of work to try and come to a solution that would be satisfactory for you (and remember, Oshwah is a volunteer, as we all are). You have a COI with the article, because you are the subject of the article - put simply, you shouldn't be editing it at all, ever, unless it is to revert simple vandalism (and that doesn't mean stuff you disagree with, or which is wrong, we're talking about intentional insertion of nonsense or profanity). You are still able to make edits to the talk page, to propose changes to the article.
- I'll explain why we do that. Even with the very best of intentions, someone who is closely connected to an article can find it hard to make objective decisions about what should and should not be included; it can also be tempting for them to introduce information which they know to be true, but are unable to verify by citing a reliable source. They also have a natural and understandable tendency to try to reflect things in as positive a light as possible, rather than writing neutrally and objectively. For all those reasons, editors are strongly discouraged from editing the articles they are connected to, and they are almost always blocked from doing so if they can't follow that strong discouragement.
- Some context - my partner is a notable academic. We have an article about her. I did not write it, I do not edit it, and I don't look at it, because I have a COI and it might be just too tempting to correct any mistakes or fill in some blanks. I am not the right person to do that work - I have to put my faith in the thousands of other other editors on this platform to get the job right. So, yeah - this might feel unjust, but your best bet is just to stick to either ignoring the article entirely, or making suggestions for other people to consider on its talk page. You can use edit requests for that purposes if you want to. Girth Summit (blether) 15:27, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate all your help thus far, but if you look at the history of the page, youll see that user @italyino also did some disruptive editing to DiLiegro's Israeli heritage back in June as well (was warned about it), erasing his status as an Israeli national (which was never rectified or reverted, no less) and now is clearly back again doing more disruptive editing (which also has not only not been reverted, but lead to myself getting banned from the page. I have supplied sources for both in which diliegro talks about his israeli nationality AND his personal life regarding his girlfriend at the time (Wilde and Doja cat), i just think this matter needs to be looked into more from the lens of the disruptive editor (italyino) and not the person trying to restore the page to its original form (myself) Dadilmotos (talk) 16:36, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- As I said, you can post proposals at the article's talk page (Talk:Dane_DiLiegro). Leave it to other editors to determine whether the sources are adequate, and the content encyclopaedic. Administrators don't have any kind of editorial veto - we just deal with technical stuff and behavioural issues. What goes in and is left out of the article will be determined on that talk page. Italyino has also been blocked from that article, so they won't be making any more edits to it. Girth Summit (blether) 23:48, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- of course, but what Im saying was that Italyino's vandalism to the page is done and still stands. they accomplished their goal they set out to do. wiped the israeli nationality and personal life from the page. yes they are blocked, but their disruptive behavior has not been reverted. Dadilmotos (talk) 00:19, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- So you can go to the article talk page, and propose that the content in question be added back in. Administrators aren't the ones who should judge whose version of the article should be reinstated (see WP:The Wrong Version for some lighthearted discussion of this). Girth Summit (blether) 01:21, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- of course, but what Im saying was that Italyino's vandalism to the page is done and still stands. they accomplished their goal they set out to do. wiped the israeli nationality and personal life from the page. yes they are blocked, but their disruptive behavior has not been reverted. Dadilmotos (talk) 00:19, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- As I said, you can post proposals at the article's talk page (Talk:Dane_DiLiegro). Leave it to other editors to determine whether the sources are adequate, and the content encyclopaedic. Administrators don't have any kind of editorial veto - we just deal with technical stuff and behavioural issues. What goes in and is left out of the article will be determined on that talk page. Italyino has also been blocked from that article, so they won't be making any more edits to it. Girth Summit (blether) 23:48, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate all your help thus far, but if you look at the history of the page, youll see that user @italyino also did some disruptive editing to DiLiegro's Israeli heritage back in June as well (was warned about it), erasing his status as an Israeli national (which was never rectified or reverted, no less) and now is clearly back again doing more disruptive editing (which also has not only not been reverted, but lead to myself getting banned from the page. I have supplied sources for both in which diliegro talks about his israeli nationality AND his personal life regarding his girlfriend at the time (Wilde and Doja cat), i just think this matter needs to be looked into more from the lens of the disruptive editor (italyino) and not the person trying to restore the page to its original form (myself) Dadilmotos (talk) 16:36, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- just wanted to say that I appreciate all the hard work you do here to keep the peace and everything orderly. But I just want to send you something that you said to me over a week ago: “There's no doubt in my mind that it'll be undone and the content that was added before the disruption was made will be restored. The article had to be put into full protection due to the volume of edit warring that was going on, and to put a stop to all of that. In the end, everything will all get fixed... In fact, I'm considering possibly modifying the protection duration and shortening it to expire in a day or two, instead of in a week —- i was patient and kept open communication with you, not only did the page not get restored to the way it was before the disruption, but i was permanently blocked from editing the page… @Italyinohasn’t responded or talked to anyone here. i’ve had very open communication with you (that i’ve initiated a few times) and i feel like we could have done better. Dadilmotos (talk) 15:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - Like I said in another discussion with you earlier, unreferenced content on a biography of a living person is usually removed – especially if the content is contentious – due to Wikipedia's strict policies governing these kinds of articles. Unless there's a reliable source that supports the content being added, it's likely not going to remain on the article. I understand that you're subject of the article in question, but "citing yourself" as a reference isn't allowed on Wikipedia. You may not think it right now, but these policies are important and exist for your benefit. Think if we were to allow unreferenced content to be published on the article that was libelous. That would obviously be really bad! If you haven't already, I recommend reviewing Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines and encourage you to avoid editing the article. I believe that I pointed you to this page in an earlier discussion. The best practice for all editors on Wikipedia is to completely avoid articles on topics or subjects that they have a personal conflict of interest with. This is why a block was proposed in the discussion that I started. If you have more questions, you're welcome to ask them here. I would, however, suggest that you ask them in the discussion that I started with the community. This way, other users have a chance to try and help you as well. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:36, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help but now they are discussing blocking me it seems? and issues of COI are being discussed as well. my commitment is to with factual and objectively true. in fact. Now. More things got deleted from my page that are also true from the attention of this. somehow this dug and even bigger hole. there’s gotta be something that can be done besides bringing other people into this? i’ve been patient and I know you talked about all of the information getting reverted. how can we come to that resolution? Dadilmotos (talk) 16:28, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Dadilmotos - I raised a discussion in order to draw attention to the article. The community is weighing in on what should be the next step. Nothing is final, so don't worry. The best thing you can do right now is respond to the discussion with any questions or concerns, and keep an eye out for responses that may include questions for you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:37, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Wait a second. You told me to be patient and wait and that it would most likely get reverted to the way it was. Now they’re talking about blocking both of us. Why is this happening? @Italyino isn’t even responding to anyone. They are clearly the person that’s trying to cause issues. On top of everything I am the most informed on this entire article because it’s about me. what is happening here? Dadilmotos (talk) 15:18, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from DocomomoSouthernAfrica (10:05, 21 September 2025)
Hi there
We are busy writing and updating info on southern african modern architects.
I am just looking to see that how we are doing our edits and page creations is correct.
Thanks! --DocomomoSouthernAfrica (talk) 10:05, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi DocomomoSouthernAfrica! Thanks for leaving me a message with your request. I took a quick glance at the edits you made before you left me this message, and I don't see any obvious issues. If other editors revert your changes or leave you messages on your user talk page with concerns, take time to read those messages and understand what they're trying to say. They may be pointing out issues that you're unaware of and will usually provide you a link to the relevant policy or guideline that details the concern. Other than that, remember that you're encouraged to be bold! If something appears to need fixing or improving within an article, don't be afraid to edit the article in question and fix or improve what's needed!
- I am concerned, however, that your account is being shared between more than one person, since your message above refers to yourself as "we" multiple times. If you review this section of Wikipedia's username policy, accounts are designated to be used by one individual. Sharing the password to an account and using one account between more than one person is not allowed. If this is what you're doing, you need to change the password to your account so that only you have access to it, and have any other individuals create and use their own accounts to edit.
- Please let me know if I can assist you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to help! :-D Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:44, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply!
- Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I will make sure to be only one with access to the account.
- Docomomo is an organisation with chapters around the world which works towards the documention and conservation of the modern movement. Hence the 'we'.
- Apologies for any cofusion!
- Thanks again! DocomomoSouthernAfrica (talk) 13:17, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- DocomomoSouthernAfrica - No problem; always happy to help! I would also recommend that you change your username to a different one as well, since it violates Wikipedia's username policy for representing a company or organization. You can do this by either filing a request on this page, or responding here with a username that I can change your account to (I have the ability to change your username for you). This way, you can resolve the issue before it becomes an actual problem. Once your username request is granted and the change is completed, you'll be automatically logged out of your account. When this happens, just remember to enter your new username into the sign-in page when signing back into your account. Otherwise, you'll be given an "invalid username or password" error. Let me know what I can do for you. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:27, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from Jeffers1750 (14:27, 21 September 2025)
- Note: Jeffers1750's mentor Fritzmann2002 is away.
Hi there, I feel like so stupid navigating my way around. I started to create a Wikipedia page for Stanley L. Robbins, MD, which needs many edits, but I don't know where to look for it. Can you help me locate it? I would be so grateful. --Jeffers1750 (talk) 14:27, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Jeffers1750! Oh no, you shouldn't feel "stupid" at all! We were all new to Wikipedia at one time, and I'm sure that I got lost a handful of times while I was first learning. If you take a look at your contributions, you'll see that you made an edit to Draft:Stanley L. Robbins/sandbox, which is the page that you're likely looking for. Let me know if this isn't the right page and I'll be happy to take another look and find it for you.
- If you're looking for pages and tutorials for new Wikipedia users, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere.
- If you need anything else, just let me know and I'll be happy to help! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:51, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
FYI
Someone's having a little too much fun: . Thanks. ConnerTT (talk) 02:00, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi ConnerTT! Thanks for letting me know. I've revoked the user's talk page access. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:04, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
TPA revoking
Might want to consider revoking TPA for Special:Contributions/142.126.249.213. This is a specific LTA that spams pages and then proceeds to misuse TPA. Thanks :) 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:01, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Also, a rangeblock on Special:Contributions/142.126.249.213/16 might be needed. Happy editing :) 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:03, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Actually now that I look at it, Special:Contributions/142.126.249.213/24 would likely cause less damage to other editors. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:05, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi 45dogs! I've revoked talk page access for this user. I'm looking into the IP's network information and range allocations now... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:06, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- 45dogs - I just applied a range block to 142.126.240.0/20 for two weeks. If you see any more disruption coming from a range that's outside what I blocked, let me know and I'll extend the range block further out. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:10, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing so! This specific person has been misusing IPs for a while (see Special:Contributions/184.147.21.0/24 and Special:Contributions/76.69.0.0/16) hopefully this will stave them off for a bit. Happy editing :) 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- 45dogs - Ohhhh yeah, this user is definitely not unfamiliar to me. ;-) Cool deal; like I said, let me know if you see any more issues from either a wider range than the one I blocked, or a different one. I'll be happy to step in and put a stop to the shenanigans. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:15, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Seems they are back again; see Special:Contributions/216.208.50.206. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:58, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- 45dogs - Ohhhh yeah, this user is definitely not unfamiliar to me. ;-) Cool deal; like I said, let me know if you see any more issues from either a wider range than the one I blocked, or a different one. I'll be happy to step in and put a stop to the shenanigans. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:15, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing so! This specific person has been misusing IPs for a while (see Special:Contributions/184.147.21.0/24 and Special:Contributions/76.69.0.0/16) hopefully this will stave them off for a bit. Happy editing :) 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- 45dogs - I just applied a range block to 142.126.240.0/20 for two weeks. If you see any more disruption coming from a range that's outside what I blocked, let me know and I'll extend the range block further out. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:10, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi 45dogs! I've revoked talk page access for this user. I'm looking into the IP's network information and range allocations now... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:06, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Actually now that I look at it, Special:Contributions/142.126.249.213/24 would likely cause less damage to other editors. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) 02:05, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
hello
hello Oshwah you sent me a message today and idk why sorry for any misunderstanding 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 02:30, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! The message I left was to inform you that an edit you attempted to make was disallowed by an edit filter due to being disruptive. The edit attempt generated an abuse filter log that you can view by clicking here. If you're looking to make any test edits, there's a sandbox page that you can use in order to do that. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:41, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- thanks for you time see ya! 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- i do have a question tho when was wikipedia founded and thank you for your time today 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 02:49, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! Wikipedia actually has an article about itself that you can read here. It was founded back in 2001. Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:53, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- thanks 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 02:54, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- No problem. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:56, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- thanks 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 02:54, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! Wikipedia actually has an article about itself that you can read here. It was founded back in 2001. Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:53, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt action
I was about to look over the range responsible for disruption on Laxmi Narayan when I noticed you already blocked 2409:40E2:1026:8688:0:0:0:0/64. There's a good chance it will have to be broadened if they are determined, and it's probably related to Raistarff, but it should keep disruption down for now, thanks. 184.152.65.118 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! No problem! If you see any more shenanigans related to this range (or if it starts to occur from other ranges), let me know and I'll be happy to step in and put a stop to it. ;-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:45, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Confirmed now this was more sock nonsense who's surprised. I'd ask Bovlb to block Raistarff before the account becomes autoconfirmed, but much like me they're not particularly active so if you could get to that I'd appreciate it.
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laxmi Narayan should also be procedurally closed as the edits have been BANREVERTed so WP:ATD-R does not apply. I'd do it myself but a little ways back I remember suggesting or supporting a suggestion to filter out non-AC AfD closes that were not withdrawals to combat LTA abuse since the other use cases were so narrow they were not likely to come up much yes I know irony, so if not you I'd probably have to bother someone at EFFP. Also once Justlettersandnumbers realizes they deleted the pre-existing redirect in addition to the sock article that overwrote it at Laxminarayan and restores it the title will need to be watched or protected.
- I don't like pushing work onto others, but it's been long since I've had the time to regularly monitor such things myself. I suppose I can try to look a couple of LTA cases over tomorrow, there have been a couple I remember somewhat from dealing with them over the past few months, so hopefully that makes up for some of it. Thanks for your help so far, 184.152.65.118 (talk) 01:36, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Shouty IP editor
Hey - regarding your recent block of that /20 range. From a quick look, I'd say that if we exclude edits from logged in users who already have IP block exemption, the vast majority of the edits from that range going back at least as far as June are coming from our shouty friend. There's an awful lot of revdel and oversight in the contribs - a few months off might not be a bad thing? Girth Summit (blether) 02:45, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Girth Summit - I don't see a problem with that at all! Feel free to extend the block duration; I trust your judgment! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:48, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Will do, cheers. (Maybe I'm just feeling left out that I wasn't included in the latest rant...). Have a good one. Girth Summit (blether) 02:49, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Girth Summit - HA! I know what you mean... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:52, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Will do, cheers. (Maybe I'm just feeling left out that I wasn't included in the latest rant...). Have a good one. Girth Summit (blether) 02:49, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
fav nhl team
mines vancover 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 03:50, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! I don't follow the NHL much, but I do follow the NFL! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:56, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
pls look at this users page on the top left is weird
Graeme Bartlett 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 03:54, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! I don't see anything strange on the top-left of Graeme Bartlett's user page. Are you accessing Wikipedia from a mobile device? You'll sometimes find that user pages will load and display things much differently when using a mobile device compared to a desktop or laptop computer. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:58, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- wait one sec 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 03:58, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human.svg this 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 03:59, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, that image is located within a userbox on Graeme Bartlett's user page. It's actually located on the top-right side of the page, so if you're accessing Wikipedia from a mobile device and see it on the left side, that's likely why. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:02, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- ahh sorry for wasting your time well i gtg 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 04:04, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- You didn't waste my time at all. I'm happy to help! If you return to Wikipedia and run into any more questions, feel free to message me here and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:06, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- ahh sorry for wasting your time well i gtg 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 04:04, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- wait one sec 2604:3D08:4277:5800:E54E:3111:C8D0:8093 (talk) 03:58, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
RD4?
Hi. While I'm somewhat confused by this request from a new contributor, it appears to amount to an WP:RD4 request of an edit summary of mine. This. If you believe it to be a valid/appropriate RD request, would you mind actioning? Much appreciated. Guliolopez (talk) 11:54, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Guliolopez! Sure, I'll take a deeper look. If the edit is a public facebook post, then it wouldn't be oversightable in my opinion. Regardless, I appreciate you for letting me know about it. Oh, and in the future, you'll want to email these requests to me privately instead of posting them publicly here. This way, if any information is indeed oversightable, it doesn't draw attention to the content. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what the request is concerning. I went ahead and took care of it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:09, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks @Oshwah (for the action/advice/etc). Much appreciated! Guliolopez (talk) 14:34, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Guliolopez - Always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:42, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks @Oshwah (for the action/advice/etc). Much appreciated! Guliolopez (talk) 14:34, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what the request is concerning. I went ahead and took care of it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:09, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Question from AdriSoft (14:42, 22 September 2025)
Hello Oshwah, it's a pleasure to meet you. My name is Adri and I would love to learn how to edit and write, to carry on a legacy that my late grandfather cherished. Here I am, starting from scratch, and I would be truly grateful for any advice and guidance you could give me as i begin this journey. Thank you very much. --AdriSoft (talk) 14:42, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi AdriSoft! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'll be happy to point you in the right direction! Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you and I'll be more than happy to help! Again, welcome aboard! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:56, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Congratulations on your GAFH request!
With you having the GAFH hat on, I wish you a big congrats as we look forward to your future assistance regarding local and global filters on other projects, including some global filters that I maintain. There is also a category you can optionally add to your user page: Category:Wikipedia global abuse filter helpers.
Thank you! Written on behalf of one of the GAFHs, Codename Noreste (talk) 14:49, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Codename Noreste! Sorry for the late response! I appreciate the message, and I look forward to helping out in any way that I can. If I can be of any assistance with any filters outside of this project, please let me know and I'll be happy to contribute and provide input. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:59, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Keolopile Twin on Motivational intensity (23:03, 22 September 2025)
I want to add pictures --Keolopile Twin (talk) 23:03, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Keolopile Twin! Welcome to Wikipedia! In order to be able to add any pictures to articles or pages, you'll need to upload them to Wikimedia's servers before you can do so. Afterwards, you'll add the image to the article by editing it and then referencing the link to the image you uploaded here. I highly recommend new editors to use the file upload wizard, as it will make sure that the image is within compliance of Wikipedia's policies on copyrights. You can also refer to this help page on files as well as this page for help on how to add the image to the article. It's extremely important that you verify for 100% certainty that the image you are going to upload and use complies with Wikipedia's copyright policies. Failing to do so and introducing copyright violations is considered a serious matter and will usually result in being blocked for repeated offenses. The pages that I linked you to will help you with how to verify this.
- Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you, and I'll be happy to do so! Welcome aboard! We're happy that you decided to join us! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:11, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
what is geoengineering
idk tbh if you can help thanks 2604:3D08:4277:5800:B5A4:8432:137D:C552 (talk) 00:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, it's CiaPan, (talk page watcher) here. Have you looked at our Geoengineering article? Hopefully it can answer your question. --CiaPan (talk) 08:11, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! CiaPan's reply above was perfect. Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:13, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Roadkiill (18:22, 24 September 2025)
Hello! Im new to wikipedia. What do i do here? --Roadkiill (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Roadkiill! Welcome to Wikipedia! Have you taken a look at our introduction page? I recommend that you go there and then use the links provided to help get you started. From there, there are great interactive pages such as Wikipedia's new user tutorial that will also be useful. I'd visit that page as well. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. Welcome aboard! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:16, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Rapa Remai (21:41, 24 September 2025)
I alr know how to edit Wikipedia I was wondering were I go to do it? --Rapa Remai (talk) 21:41, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Rapa Remai! Welcome to Wikipedia! Since you're brand new to this project, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. These pages will provide you with extremely helpful introductions, walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and tutorials that will familiarize you with the interface and navigating around the website, important policies and guidelines that you need to know, proper etiquette and how different processes on Wikipedia work, how to edit articles and communicate with other users, how to find important locations, pages and information, and where you can ask for help if you have questions or get stuck anywhere. Most users who take this advice, read through these pages, and complete the new user tutorial tell me later that the pages were significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they might've experienced otherwise.
- Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you or help you with anything, and I'll be more than happy to do so! Again, welcome to Wikipedia! We're happy that you decided to join us! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:19, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Indians in Thailand
https://www.hotelmanagement-network.com/data-insights/outbound-destinations-thailand/?cf-view
Hi you didn't wanna remove but instead update the tourism numbers. That were outdated. Unfortunately the reference was incorrect. The tesxt on wiki claimed it's popular travel destinations for Thai people. Is not even top ten so therefore not true. Also, infor about torusim in Thailand might be more suitable for a page of tourism in India and not on a page about indian people in thialand. 211.19.95.104 (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for letting me know. If information is old and if we don't yet have an updated number, it's better to just leave the old information instead of removing it entirely. If content is unreferenced and untrue, remove it! :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:21, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Alaskankatie (23:17, 25 September 2025)
Hello! I created my first article yesterday: Food Bank of Alaska. There’s a note at the top that says it’s an orphan page because it’s not linked from anywhere else. I created a couple links from the Feeding America anrticle and the List of Food Banks article. Is there something else I need to do so it’s not an orphan? --Alaskankatie (talk) 23:17, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Alaskankatie! Welcome to Wikipedia! Nope, that should be all that you need to do. Linking other Wikipedia articles to the page you created simply helps other editors be able to locate it, and it increases viewership and visibility. Otherwise, one would have to be looking for the exact food bank using Wikipedia's search tool or an external search engine in order to find it. Since you've done this, you're all set! If other related or relevant articles should link to Food Bank of Alaska or include it as a link, another editor will undoubtedly take care of that.
- I took a quick look at the Food Bank of Alaska article that you created - well done! It's a great starting-level article, and it's definitely a few steps above most new articles that I see users create. Keep it up, and let me know if I can answer any more questions for you. I'll be more than happy to help! If no one has said this to you yet, I'll do the honors: Welcome aboard! We're glad that you decided to join us, and I hope that you take off your jacket, pull up a comfy chair, and that you stay with us for awhile. We need editors like yourself, and I hope that you'll someday become a long-term experienced contributor to Wikipedia. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:28, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Warren Brewster (00:29, 28 September 2025)
Courtesy link: User:Warren Brewster/sandbox
Hello Oshwah, I am new to Wikipedia and posted my first page on Sunday, September 21. I would really like to see it posted on Wikipedia as soon as possible. Can you please review the posting and kindly let me know what needs to be done to have it accepted? Thanks in advance, Warren --Warren Brewster (talk) 00:29, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, Warren Brewster, it's CiaPan (talk page watcher) here. Please see our Help:Your first article page -- it presents multiple requirements for a Wikipedia article. Meeting all of them is a really hard task, especially if it is your first attempt in editing Wikipedia. The page even clearly states
Creating an article is one of the more difficult tasks on Wikipedia
- So, please read it carefully and check all the policies and guidelines linked there (most important, IMHO, WP:VER, WP:N, WP:BIO and WP:RS) to make sure your article is acceptable.
- When this is done, follow to publishing your draft, which is also described at WP:YFA. Good luck, and happy editing! --CiaPan (talk) 08:27, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Warren Brewster! Welcome to Wikipedia! To add to CiaPan's response above, I'd visit Wikipedia's articles for creation page. It will help you with creating a draft page where you can construct, build, expand, and polish the article you'd like published. Afterwards, you'll be able to submit it for review by experienced editors. Assuming that no issues are found with the article or its content, it'll then be published into the mainspace. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them and assist you further. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:41, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from A person of sorts (03:54, 28 September 2025)
What is the policy on using an LLM like ChatGPT to find sources? My main concern is sources found with it usually have something like =chat.gpt at the end of the link cited. I'm probably overthinking it but I don't want to be in violation of Wikipedia policy or anything. --A person of sorts (talk) 03:54, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) You can use it to find sources, but you need to go and read the sources yourself and base your content on what they say, rather than what ChatGPT says. LLMs are amazing, but they aren't reliable (yet), they halluicnate things (including sources). By all means get it to give you sources to read, but read them. Girth Summit (blether) 03:57, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Quick examples:
- ChatGPT Hallucinates Non-existent Citations: Evidence from Economics https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/05694345231218454
- FDA’s Elsa AI Tool Raises Accuracy and Oversight Concerns https://www.appliedclinicaltrialsonline.com/view/fda-elsa-ai-tool-raises-accuracy-and-oversight-concerns
- “One of the challenges that came out from the initial release of the Elsa model for FDA is that it was prone to hallucination, ... By that, I mean it was making stuff up. … We can't have our AI do that when it comes to critical analysis of core ingredients and component structures that are required. These are elements where a slight deviation makes something safe or not.”
- “Anything that you don’t have time to double-check is unreliable,” one of the anonymous FDA officials told CNN. “It hallucinates confidently.”
- The last quote above applies directly to Wikipedia as a reason for our WP:VER policy – we need double-checked references to double-checked sources, so that our readers can double-check what we deliver to them.
- --CiaPan (talk) 08:33, 28 September 2025 (UTC) (+Google)
- Much appreciated -
- I haven't used ChatGPT to write anything, and I check sources it lists. I mostly asked because I've been working on findings sources about this Bolivian politician and ChatGPT is great finding that sort of sources. A person of sorts (talk) 15:08, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Quick examples:
- Hi A person of sorts! The responses above are correct; you can definitely use them to locate sources, but I'd also recommend caution when you do so. Use good judgment, read through them, and verify that the sources found are reliable and that they explicitly state exactly what you're trying to reference. For example: if you're trying to cite a reference to content in an article that states, "exactly 4% of all Oshwah robots are yellow" - make sure that the reference actually states that information.
- Something important that you should know is the fact that any questions from editors or users right now regarding the use of large language models on Wikipedia will likely be met with varying answers and recommendations; Wikipedia doesn't have any explicit policies at this time regarding whether or not the use of LLMs is allowed - and if so, when and where. I'd completely avoid using them to write original content or to perform any kind of task involving article pages and content. Many editors will also have different opinions regarding whether or not the use of LLMs to help write messages, comments, or replies within discussions or messages is acceptable. My personal opinion is that doing so within the confines of communication between other editors and the community is fine, but with the understanding that the user assumes 100% responsibility for what they say, and with the expectation that their communications will be treated exactly as if the user did not use an LLM at all. Again, that is only my personal opinion and is not an endorsement, suggestion, or expectation, nor does it reflect any policy or guideline currently in place. The reason that I'm talking about this is to set appropriate expectations with you regarding any questions involving Wikipedia and the use of LLMs. Right now, there simply isn't any policy or guideline page to point you to, but I believe for absolute sure that this will someday change. It'll get to the point that it'll have to.
- Please let me know if I can answer any more questions for you, and I'll be happy to do so and assist you. My user talk page is always open to you, and you're welcome to message me for help, input, advice, or guidance any time you need it. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:29, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- As always, much appreicated Oshwah. A person of sorts (talk) 15:08, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- A person of sorts - You bet; always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:29, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- As always, much appreicated Oshwah. A person of sorts (talk) 15:08, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Bojang Meftah (11:18, 28 September 2025)
Hi Oshwah, I want to record a history of my extended family in a chronological fashion. I want to be able to edit it over a period of time and have trouble finding the relevant pages when I wish to continue the task. Pls advise how to bookmark / find my home page easily every time I return --Bojang Meftah (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Bojang Meftah! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'll be happy to answer your question and point you in the correct direction. Unfortunately, what you appear to be asking for or wanting to create isn't something that represents what Wikipedia is or what it provides. If you take a look at fourth item listed on this section of Wikipedia's policy page on what Wikipedia is not, it explicitly states that Wikipedia is not for family history records or genealogical entries. You'll likely be able to create what you're asking for using genealogy websites or genealogy services such as Ancestry.com, FamilySearch, or MyHeritage.
- If I'm incorrect and if you're not looking to publish family history trees or genealogical information, please let me know (include a detail explanation of what you're looking for) and I'll be happy to point you in the right direction. Please also let me know if I can answer any more questions or assist you with anything else. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. :-) Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great upcoming weekend. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:38, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Link to account usurp at ACC
Hi Oshwah! Hope you are doing well :)
I am wondering if you have the ability to change the Changing usernames/Usurpation
link at https://accounts.wmflabs.org/? It currently links to WP:CHU/U, but that venue was closed down after an RfC. Usurp requests are now accepted at m:USURP. If that is not one of your superpowers, would you be able to pass the message along to the appropriate people? Thanks for all the work you do :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:30, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi HouseBlaster! Ahh, thanks for the heads up regarding that link. I just created a pull request on your behalf for the ACC project on Github. I'll let the appropriate devs know to push that through. :-) Please let me know if you find any other issues like this, and I'll be happy to help get it taken care of. Thanks again for the message and for letting me know about this! :-D Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:54, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update: The pull request was approved and has moved forward into the "ready to merge" list. It'll be included with the next deployment, whenever that is. Thanks again! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:57, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
Question from Excla (09:47, 30 September 2025)
- Hi, Excla! It's CiaPan (talk page stalker) here. I think it's not going to happen (even though Oshwah loves - AFAIK - to help people at Wikipedia).
CiaPan (talk) 18:45, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- CiaPan is correct. I blindly help all Wikipedia editors, regardless of their requests, intentions, or reasons. I was just on my way to go ahead and disconnect everyone, but unfortunately... it looks like I misplaced the "disconnect all users and editors from Wikipedia except Excla" button somewhere; I can't find it... :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:03, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Excla! It's CiaPan (talk page stalker) here. I think it's not going to happen (even though Oshwah loves - AFAIK - to help people at Wikipedia).
Hi Oshwah, I hope you're well! Some 2 years ago I asked you for rollback permissions, and now I'm here for the same kind of reason. After recently joining ACC, I've hit the 6 account creation limit every day, so I thought now would be a good time to ask for this flag. I've also revised your similar account flowchart and will plan on doing requests that require overriding AntiSpoof, should that backlog become large. Here are my stats so far. Thanks! NotAGenious (talk) 17:59, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi NotAGenious! I was curious and looked to see where you updated the similar account flowchart that I created, but I didn't see where you made any changes. Am I looking in the wrong place? :-) Sure, let me reach out to the other ACC Tool Administrators and verify that there are no objections with granting you the account creator user permissions. Once I hear back, I'll let you know here. Just sit tight for now; this shouldn't take longer than a few days to do... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi! Sorry for the confusion, I referred to the British English definition: to reread work done previously to improve one's knowledge of a subject, typically to prepare for an examination. Thank you! NotAGenious (talk) 07:27, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- NotAGenious - Ahh, okay! I understand what you mean now... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:47, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- NotAGenious -
Done. Keep up the good work, and remember to reference the ACC SOP Manual or reach out to me if you have any questions. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:28, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- NotAGenious -
- NotAGenious - Ahh, okay! I understand what you mean now... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:47, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi! Sorry for the confusion, I referred to the British English definition: to reread work done previously to improve one's knowledge of a subject, typically to prepare for an examination. Thank you! NotAGenious (talk) 07:27, 4 October 2025 (UTC)