Talk:Appcircle
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Edit request: lead section
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I would like to propose a revision of the lead section. I understand that reviewers may prefer different wording or a different sourcing approach. The text below is intended as a starting point, and I would be happy with any version that better reflects Wikipedia policies.
Current text:
'''Appcircle Inc.''' (replacing Smartface Inc.) is a mobile technology company focusing on [[Mobile DevOps]] and mobile [[Continuous integration|Continuous Integration]] and [[Continuous Delivery]] for [[Mobile app development|mobile application development]], primarily in enterprise settings. Appcircle is headquartered in Delaware with offices in New Jersey, Palo Alto and Istanbul.
Appcircle had initially been set up as a [[Corporate spin-off|spinoff]] product from Smartface Inc, a mobile technology company focusing on enterprise mobility in the cloud for mobile transformation in enterprises.<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last= |first= |date=12 April 2019 |title=Smartface Expands its Product Portfolio with Next Generation Products |url=https://smartface.io/smartface-expands-its-product-portfolio-with-next-generation-products/ |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date= |website=}}</ref> As the mobile landscape evolved, the main portfolio of products offered by Smartface Inc has eventually been replaced by the Appcircle mobile CI/CD platform, while Smartface Inc focusing on providing professional services for mobile and middleware technologies for enterprises.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Customer Story – Turkcell Life Employee Experience Mobile Application |url=https://smartface.io/employee-experience-mobile-application/ |access-date=2024-08-15 |website=Smartface Enterprise Mobility Platform |language=en-US}}</ref>
The superseding of Smartface by Appcircle stems from the fact that Smartface offered mobile CI/CD only for its own platform<ref>{{Cite web |title=Building Smartface Apps Locally {{!}} Smartface Docs |url=https://docs.smartface.io/smartface-getting-started/build/building-smartface-apps-locally/ |access-date=2024-08-15 |website=smartface.io |language=en}}</ref> while Appcircle offers a [[platform-agnostic]] mobile CI/CD environment.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Platform Build Guides {{!}} Appcircle Docs |url=https://docs.appcircle.io/build/platform-build-guides |access-date=2024-08-15 |website=docs.appcircle.io |language=en}}</ref>
Proposed text:
'''Appcircle Inc.''' is a mobile technology company focusing on [[Continuous integration|Continuous Integration]] and [[Continuous Delivery]] (CI/CD) for [[Mobile app development|mobile application development]], primarily in enterprise settings.
Appcircle was initially set up as a [[Corporate spin-off|spinoff]] product from Smartface Inc., a mobile technology company focusing on enterprise mobility in the cloud. As the mobile landscape evolved, the product portfolio offered by Smartface Inc. was replaced by the Appcircle mobile CI/CD platform. Smartface was discontinued by 2022. The company's technology was carried forward through Appcircle and through Keymate, an access governance platform built on [[Keycloak]].<ref>{{Cite press release |title=From Sunsetting to Spin-Off Success: Smartface's 10-Year Journey Leads to the Rise of Appcircle and Keymate |publisher=Smartface Inc. |via=ACCESS Newswire |date=16 December 2025 |url=https://www.accessnewswire.com/newsroom/en/computers-technology-and-internet/from-sunsetting-to-spin-off-success-smartfaces-10-year-journey-le-1116647}}</ref>
Smartface offered mobile CI/CD only for its own platform,<ref>{{Cite web |title=Building Smartface Apps Locally {{!}} Smartface Docs |url=https://docs.smartface.io/smartface-getting-started/build/building-smartface-apps-locally/ |access-date=2024-08-15 |website=smartface.io |language=en}}{{dead link|date=August 2026}}</ref> while Appcircle offers a [[platform-agnostic]] mobile CI/CD environment.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Platform Build Guides {{!}} Appcircle Docs |url=https://docs.appcircle.io/build/platform-build-guides |access-date=2024-08-15 |website=docs.appcircle.io |language=en}}</ref>
Reasons:
- "(replacing Smartface Inc.)" in the opening sentence is unclear, and the relationship is explained properly in the following paragraph.
- The office locations are unsourced. Since they are not supported by a citation, I suggest removing them until a reliable source is available. The infobox already states the headquarters location.
- The current wording uses both "Mobile DevOps" and "mobile Continuous Integration and Continuous Delivery". Since the article describes Appcircle primarily as a CI/CD platform, the shorter wording is more concise.
- "while Smartface Inc focusing on" is ungrammatical.
- The discontinuation of Smartface is not reflected anywhere in the article.
- The last paragraph attributes causation ("The superseding of Smartface by Appcircle stems from the fact that") that neither cited source states. This appears to be WP:SYNTH. I propose keeping the sourced factual comparison and removing only the causal framing. Both citations in that paragraph are retained.
- The docs.smartface.io citation appears to be unreachable in a normal browser. Per WP:DEADREF I am not proposing its removal, only tagging it. If an archived copy can be located, replacing the tag with archive parameters would be preferable.
On the citations in the second paragraph: this proposal replaces the two existing references there with a single source, so I want to set out my reasoning. The Turkcell customer story describes a client project and does not appear to support the statement about professional services that it is attached to. The 2019 company announcement predates the events described in the paragraph. The proposed source is dated December 2025 and covers the discontinuation directly. All three are company-published, so this is not an improvement in independence, and I want to be clear about that. A press release is primary and non-independent under WP:ORGIND; I am proposing it only under WP:ABOUTSELF, for uncontroversial factual statements about the company's own history, and I have not included any of the evaluative claims the release makes. If reviewers would prefer to retain the existing citations and simply add this one, that outcome is fine with me. HorizonAurora (talk) 09:18, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
Not done for now: I have nominated the article for deletion. If it should survive, feel free to return and make suggestions (with reliable sources). 🄻os🄰 14:03, 14 August 2026 (UTC)